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Today I got around to firing the .375-.416 Rem since I switched out the Tasco for the Bushnell. The Tasco hit a fellow at the range so I put a 4200 on it with its longer eye relief.

Anyway when I sighted in the Tasco the impact point moved when I turned the turret. With the Bushnell it started 9" right at 300 yard target. I dialed eight clicks left, which should be 6", to see an impact chage of at most 3". I moved it eight clicks left again and nothing changed. I gave it four more clicks and it finally centered. This is a major disapointment.

In a few days I will get back to the range to see if it will stay where it is suposed to.


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These use the same adjustments as the 3200 as well if it's the 3-9x40. IMO these things are horrible and the biggest downside to these scopes. The ones I've personally used have tracked horribly, but once zeroed they did stay zeroed. For most people though this is okay, as most people zero the scope and leave it alone.

I've talked to quite a few others that have had these problems in addition to myself. Enough, that I'm fairly confident that it's the design of them, not that I got bad ones.

I don't know, the Bushnell Elite scopes have just left me disappointed. I think they still make it very obvious that they are still a Bushnell. I don't think they are nearly as good of a value as many other guys do. I can agree they have great glass, but in my opinion that's about where it stops. Unless you get the tactical model, they have horrible adjustments, their customer service is lousy, etc. I just don't see much good about them other than the glass. To me I think the FFII's are much better scopes in this price range. Not that the glass is any better, but it's not far behind the 4200, and any differences you see would be super small, and the rest of the scope, and the warranty is much better imo. Once you get to the level of glass quality of these scopes, where they are all so close, I'd rather give up a hair of glass quality for good solid repeatable adjustments, a good warranty, and a solid all around scope.

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I have two 4200s and their tracking is very repetitive and predictable. Have owned them for over 5 years without any issues so I can't comment on their customer service. Only complaint I've ever heard about them is that their eye relief is .2" less than others in their class. I've never noticed the difference when comparing them to other comparable scopes. They are not my favorite scopes but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them for their value, quality and durability.

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Originally Posted by ANGCortsair
their eye relief is .2" less than others in their class. I've never noticed the difference when comparing them to other comparable scopes. They are not my favorite scopes but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them for their value, quality and durability.

YMMV.


Is that it? Maybe my concern/dislike of the eye relief is a function of them being 3-9, and not so much that itsa 4200. (as opposed to the 1-4 I have that has huge ER)

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I had heard so many good reviews on here about the 4200, figured I myswell try one out and see,

The center of the glass is clear, I'll give it that,

But the outer 1/3 of glass is not near the same clarity,

Any one else notice this?

Can't tell you about any tracking issues, I didn't keep the scope long enough to worry about that.

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It may be a 4200... but it's still a bushnell..


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Originally Posted by slowr1der
These use the same adjustments as the 3200 as well if it's the 3-9x40.

You don't know him.....do you? I'm sure it was the 8-32x40 model.

Anyway....sorry to hear this about the Bushnell. I have tried the 4200's in the 2.5-10 variety and I'm not a fan primarily due to weight and quirky eyebox (for me, anyway).


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You don't know him.....do you? I'm sure it was the 8-32x40 model.


So sorry I left out the magnification.blush It is a 4-16X. That is the lowest magnification scope I have even on a 10/22. The bolt .22 rimfire has a 6-24X.

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Welcome to the 'fire, ANGCortsair. I hope I can influence you in the proper way to enjoy optics.

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Mine (3-9x40) seems to be very clear everywhere. I wonder if its an isolated incident with that particular scope???

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I dunno,Thats why I asked...Once I realized what the deal was, It was fairly clear(pun) where the problem was....

It seems like every time I decide to try scopes other than Leupys, I'm quickly disappointed and then sell the scope at a loss.

I told myself years ago just buy what you know is good, and you'll have it for a loooong time.

I'm done experimenting, for the 4th or 5th time(grin)

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Kenneth,

My gunsmith tells me you can't learn much from a sample of one. I am glad you are having good results with Leupold. The second one on my .454 has lasted over ten years. It is a 2 1/2-8X32 Vari-X.


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We'll, the other clue here is,

It seems like everytime some large retailer(Cabelas) has a big sale on 3200-4200's,

about a month later the Classifieds here on the 'fire will have multiple "like new" 3200 and 4200's for sale..

Just a coincidence I'm sure........ whistle

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Do you watch the "large retailer" and the Classifieds as a hobby?

I certainly go for the classifieds here but don't pay any attention to the large retailers.


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When there is a big sale on, no doubt the word gets out.

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To All: BIG difference between the 3200 and the 4200.

Ringman:
The 4200 in 4x16 has 1/8 minute clicks, hence why the reticle did not move as much as you think it should have.

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I sense that the leupy lovers are getting a little touchy about the B&L Elite scopes. Improvements are steady and they are THE bargain in a good scope. Don't see any loss of clarity around edges of my 4200 elites or the new elites. Don't have any adjustment problems----they may not be perfect, but I don't play with them all the time. For those of us who don't "crawl the stock" there is no eye relief problem with 3.3 to 3.5 inches. But if you need 4 inches, I understand! Finally, I will say that not all eyes see different scope glass quality the same. Some do look better than others to different folks regardless of price!!!

The elites simply represent a very good, AFFORDABLE hunting scope!


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"touchy"? Hell I wanted that 4200 to be a good scope, that's why I bought it.

And I don't expect a 200$ scope to be in the same class as a 400$ scope. You get what you pay for.

But after 2 trips to the range, I knew that 4200 wasn't staying at this address..

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keith,

You are too kind. Thanks for the info.


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Kenneth,

If you purchsed it new, you could have sent it back for a full refund up to one year.

I know the feeling of wanting a scope to be good. It took four Swarovski z5 5-25X52's before one was allowed to stay at my house.


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