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I'm kinda wonderin if it's a difference in magnification, I've just used the 6-24x and 8-32x and they have been great scopes that the adjustments will walk around in full squares and back to zero on the money.

The airgun crowd uses these on field rifles where they depend on a scope that will take the beating of an air rifle and still allow constant elevation and windage adjustments for different distances.

I just put a 6-24x on my .243 WSSM.

I forgot to add, I've heard they have really good customer service so if there's a problem get a new one.

Keith, this would explain his first statement about the reticle moving only 3" vs. 6". But what about his next statement that says clicked an additional 8 clicks and nothing happened? No movement with 8 clicks is not good!

GK

1/8" clicks explains some of it. is it possible the shot may have been pulled a little? 300yds with a .416, I'd probably pull a fuzz too... how many shots were fired after the adjustment,1-2-3?

Hope his shooting ability is better than his eyesight.

Seen the same occurrence with Doug when they offer the Vortex Vipers at a discount. I am sure we will see several in the classifieds in the coming months.

I hear you on the flinch! I'm sure I would be a little twitchy shooting a 416 in bench mode. I am assuming that he ruled out shooting problems before he jumped to the "scope didn't move" position.

GK

I have had good results and satisfaction w/MY Elites in the past fwiw.

Clear/bright sharp glass, held POA/POI, no issues.

Others - YMMV.

Again I see my inability to communicate. The caliber is a .375. It is on a 8MM Rem Mag case but I say .416 Rem case because I run into so many who never heard of the 8MM Rem Mag. They use the same case. The bullets are Barnes TTSX 250 grains at an average of 3,162 feet per second. The barrel is 27 1/2" long. The groups at 300 yards varied from 2" to 4" at the 300 yard targets.

After I moved the sight the last time I let the rifle cool for several minutes in a temperture about 40*. I fired a group that was perfectly centered and let the barrel cool again and repeated it. It was also centered.

Oddly the last group was a verticle string about 3" and the second to last was a horizontal string about 4". All the others were triangles.

About the recoil:
It has what my son-in-law calls the "butt ugly recoil reduction system." I put a small industrial 1/2" travel shock absorber in the stock afer cutting off the appropreate amount of wood. On the other end is a big muzzle brake. I can fire two boxes of ammo through this rifle without the slightest shoulder pain and narry a red mark.

I have two 4200 and four 3200 scopes. One had tracking problems. It happens.

I'd like to see that rifle! sounds interesting.
I've got a couple of the 6500's and my brother has a 4200. no issues other than him slipping on a Alaska bear hunt and breaking the scope. they did replace the scope with a newer model for free after a couple of phone calls.

beretta_man11,

I notice you are from "here and there". If here and there is ever Southern Oregon give me a call. I will bring some ammo for you to give it a shot or two.

With my 100 grain duplex load a few years ago I used to fire Sierra 300 grainers at 3,000 feet per second. On a bad day the 300 yard groups were 3". Norma MRP made mixing powders a thing of the past.

Thanks for the invite!
I'm in Denver for a couple weeks then off to somewhere in NY.
I'll keep you in mind if I ever head that way!

So now I'm confused. feel free to correct me, because im doing this from memory. 416 rem is a 375 H&H neck'd up to 416. I know they used the 8MM mag case because it supposedly was stronger in the belt area, but in essence its a H&H case. So you are taking a 416 rem/8mm mag case and necking it to 375. Aren't you basically just making a 375 H&H??? Possibly you are changing the shoulder i guess, but wouldn't it be easier to call it a 375 improved. What am I not getting here?

OBTW I've had good luck with Elites but I only use them on my varmint rifles.....nothing larger than a 22-250. For dangerous game rifles i stick with trusted leupolds. Just for my own peace of mind.

The .375-.416 Remington is like you suggested; a blown out .375 H&H. It holds significantly more powder. It is about the same as a .375 Weatherby. Not as much as a .375 A.I. which is what I asked for. I think that is shortened to "improved". I didn't do anymore business with that 'smith. By the way it is the same case as the 7 STW or the .358 Alaskan.

I can fireform new brass by firing factory load.375's. I loose about 100 feet per second. I prefer to purchase new brass to load.

Well I can't verify Ringman's Eye Sight...

but I have seen his shooting ability..

I can guarantee you it is not an issue...

I have watched him more that once hit a milk jug sized gong at 500 yds...when run into each other at times, using the same range, living in the same town..

I also had the outside edge (1/3) be blured on two new 4200s (3x9x40). Called Bushnell told them of the problem, they sent a pre paid shipping label and said send them back. I did and they came back in about a week perfectly clear, working fine, and still are years later. Schiiit can happen with anything mass produced, should it have, no, but it did. As far as their customer service goes i don't know how it could have been any better. Just a sample of one,YMMV.

Guy

RDFinn,



I am curious upon what do you base this hope? What do you know about my eyesight?

guy57,

The readers here know I had trouble with the first three Swarovski z5's. I also had trouble with the first two Bushnell 6500's. The z5's I returned or sold.

The first 6500 was a little blurry above 25X. I sent it in for customer service. In two weeks it was back and really great from about 8X up. I returned it for a full refund; even including the insurance because it was on the orginal reciept.

That is good customer service. How many scope companies offer a full refund for the first year for any reason?

The third 6500 was the beautiful example I now have.

Only what you have stated..........that you have severe Nyctalopia.

Didn't you know I can see in the dark with my rifle mounted huble? My light rifle carries a 52mm objetive!

But what does that have to do with hunting during the day?