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#6280256 - 03/11/12 06:52 PM What Savage rimfire is this?
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Can't post a picture but it looks to be a 23A Sporter. Except it isn't marked as such. Just has the patent dates and "manufactured by Savage Arms Corp. Utica NY USA" stamped on top of the 23" barrel about halfway down the Schnabel-type forearm. Newest patent date is Nov.20, 1917. "22 Long-Rifle" is stamped atop the receiver above the ejection port. It's definetely a 23 series and a Utica gun but I can't figure why there isn't more I.D. to this thing. Doesn't have "Savage Sporter" on it anywhere that I can see. No checkering on the stock and the steel buttplate just has a small Savage emblem and says "Savage Quality". Nice shape except for a missing magazine. Not my gun (yet) but it's part of an estate so I'm unable to talk to the owner and his widow knows nothing about it. Did they make any 23A's or 23AA's without much identification on them?

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#6280300 - 03/11/12 07:03 PM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: 22250rem]
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Is the back of the bolt flat or rounded?

Might be a 1922.
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#6280430 - 03/11/12 07:28 PM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: mad_dog]
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Back end of bolt is about the same diameter as the bolt, is knurled all around and not rounded, but flat with the center being concave. I've got a 23-D Sporter (22 Hornet) and the back of its bolt is smaller in diameter than the bolt body and rounded.

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#6281274 - 03/12/12 05:05 AM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: 22250rem]
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It's a model 1922, very uncommon rimfire to find, they only made them for one year. I'm still trying to find a magazine for my 1922.
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#6281785 - 03/12/12 08:25 AM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: mad_dog]
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Mad Dog; thanks for the reply. So were Model 1922's built on those Model 23 style barreled actions? I read that the 1922's were built on the 1919 actions, which were different, weren't they? This thing has a model 23 style receiver for sure and it's driving me nuts cause I've never seen an unmarked one like this. I'm starting to think I should jump on it while I have the opportunity. If it really is a 1922 I'm gonna go for it.

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#6282130 - 03/12/12 10:00 AM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: 22250rem]
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Does it have dual firing pins like the 1919?

Is the rear sight held on by two screws and not dovetailed?

My 1922 doesn't say Sporter on it anywhere either, just the barrel address and 22 long rifle.

I'm fairly certain your looking at a 1922.
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#6282744 - 03/12/12 12:36 PM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: mad_dog]
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Serial is on the back edge of the receiver where you put the bolt in. If the serial is under 25,000 it is probably a Model 1922.
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#6283477 - 03/12/12 03:47 PM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: mad_dog]
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Mad Dog; Thanks for the help. This thing IS a 1922!! The first one I've ever seen. It has the dual firing pins, rear sight held on by 2 screws and not dovetailed. I also came across one on gunauction.com that had a lot of nice photos and info. I'm gonna jump on this even if it doesn't have the magazine. (don't think any other early Savage magazines would work, right?) Rick99 - Thanks for your help also. This 1922 is serial # 18xx and it's gonna have a place in my safe right next to my all original 23D Sporter in 22 Hornet.

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#6283559 - 03/12/12 04:06 PM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: 22250rem]
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Hard to find a mag for them, the 23 mags don't fit them apparently.
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#6290578 - 03/14/12 11:00 AM Re: What Savage rimfire is this? [Re: mad_dog]
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If it has a small ejection port like my 23AA, it isn't an easy gun to single load, either. Just sayin'.

(I'd STILL buy it and devote my golden years to finding a magazine....everyone needs a quest!)
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