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Are you saying you have the right equipment and have killed rockchucks at 2100 yards? That would be just shy of 1.2 Miles. Sure it can be done but by how many and how consistanly?



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For me, being a Pa boy, groundhogs are the varmints of choice.

For me, my cartridge of choice would be my 222 Rem in either my Rem 722, Sako L461 Vixen or Rem model 7. As you can see, I love the 222. I've owned and hunted with it since before their was a 223. Not saying that the 222 is better than the 223. Just that it's my favorite.

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for me its the rem 223 tactical rigged with hs precition stock muzzle break harris by pod burris 4.4x14. 2nd fav ( for more open country) is rem hv varmint 22-250 in an old hs precition m24 stock with 6.5x20 burris

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Entertaining thred!!!Most of you ol boys are from out west I see. Up here in Pennsylvania we hunt ground hogs. We let them .223's alone. Like myself my go to G-hog rifle is a .220 Swift. Best .224 ever made, with a 55 gr. bt. chuggin along at 3800 from a 1-14 twist Ruger Mk.II and a Bushnell4200 6x24x40. The ol walk/around just an ol .222 Rem 700. 5x15 3200. Just for more fun I'll bring out the Creedmoor 700 action and some ol 95gr. heart stoppers. Us Pa. chuck hunters are known for our fine marksmanship, but 2100yds. is a bit much. We have a guy sayen he did a 1300 yd.'er who now has lost our respect for a chuck huntin fool. Oh well my best with the swift is 501yds. oo a calm day.....later

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I know a few guys in PA that use Remington 40X target rifles
for groundhogs.

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Originally Posted by safariman
Perzactly. I have an itty bitty riihimaki 222 for walking/calling and a 15lb wide flat forend pure bench gun in 223 for sitting and shooting from a bench. Right now missing a true looooonnngggg range rodentbuster, when funds allow will build a big, heavy fast twist 224TTH. My newly aquired lightweight 6mmAI might be accurate enough to fill in during the interim, have yet to shoot it and see.


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Originally Posted by Mink
[quote=shrapnel]Blah blah blah blah blahhhhhh.

Ultimate varmint gun can be narrowed down to at least one caliber, .223.

As far as the gun, nothing will surpass a good bolt gun preferably a Sako of some sort...


Shrap, I am sure you know the HK 630 is nice too. [/quote IT is virtually imposible if you have ever used an H&K 630 to go to something else. of course a mannlicher .222 sako is right up there.

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Ya they are nice. From my chuck huntin buds it goes mine .220swift Ruger mk.II, 1 guy 22.250 Rem. 1 22.250 Savage, 1 .243AI Sako. I've had a Mod.70 heavy barrel in .243. and a Mauser 26" Douglas blued in 25.06 with a 12X Luey. My newest adventure is my Creedmoor. I built it on a 700 Rem.action and wood ADL stock. Gun was from 1981. It's got a 26" Hart fluted barrel, with Timney trigger and a 6X18 on top. It's a ground hog/deer rifle. Waitin on first 4-600yd. chuck to flip.....later

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Seem's like I have a few doubter's [Linked Image]



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Originally Posted by BandGHunter
chuck hunters are known for fine marksmanship, but 2100yds. is a bit much. We have a guy sayen he did a 1300 yd.'er who now has lost our respect for a chuck huntin fool.


Just because you are not capable of a long range shot does not mean that other people are.

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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Are you saying you have the right equipment and have killed rockchucks at 2100 yards? That would be just shy of 1.2 Miles.



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boatanchor, nice set up for sure. Up my way with the guys I hunt chucks with we're still in the redneck stages I guess. We hunt chucks without benchs, or sleds. We still do the Harris, sticks, each others backs. This is the deal 2 guys on a hill side or field edge a couple lawn chairs and a pair of 20x's and 10x's. We take turns on shots. One ol boy did a chuck at 700 off hood of truck and rolled up coat with his 25.06. your set up makes a big difference in distance for sure. We've got a 1000yd.club that my rifle smith/builder plays a big part in. I've seen groups at 1000 on targets and steel and feel 1000yds. is hard shootin stuff. Up here a G-hog is about 16-18" high and about 8-10" wide which leaves plenty of MISS. Out in the western states shootin puppies is harder yet after 500yds. or so. Two of my gang have the dots set for vel. and bullets, but I'm stll a plex guy and do the hold over task. I shoot from the X and from the plex. I've shot at varis distances and learn from mistakes. SOOOO for me to do a 500yd'er+ with a 55gr.bt. from a swift is IMO very good. After I get time in with my high BC .264 6.5 140gr. Creedmoor we'll get back to this topic of How Far? If I ever get a chuck at 1000yds. it'll hit the News Paper. Again nice set up and nice equipment. What caliber is your rifle and wt. bullet? Hold onto your hat I'm not a bad guy.....later

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Originally Posted by boatanchor
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my question is what is your opinion on the ulimate varmint gun and why.


To me the ultimate varmint gun is determined by what varmint and what the condition's are.

A few years ago we went to help out a rancher that was over-run with prairie dogs, it was 95 degree's outside and even shooting my triple deuce the barrel was hot in 5 shot's. the ultimate gun that day was the 17HMR as we shot at least 10 times the dog's we would have with any center fire.

On the other end of the spectrum me and my nephew were shooting rockchucks at 2100yard's and on that day my 338 LapuaAI was the ultimate varmint gun.

So to me the ultimate varmint gun is at a minimum 10 different varmint gun's.
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Its quite the tail to claim rockchucks at 2100yrds a 1ft by 6in target. at 1.193 miles. what scope and power. what range finder? what barrel? Pictures? At that distance heat waves would have a target dancing all over the place. A breeze would be nasty on a bullet at that distance. If your 100 yrd group is .5 inch at 100 yrds it would be 10.5 inches at 2100 yrds if you could see the rock chuck. what bullet? if the 160gr is 3600fps and zerroed at 1000yrds the drop at 2100 yrds is 81.76 ft and 5mph wind drift is 10.57 ft. You may want to re think that distance.

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for varmints only the swift is a little heavy. recoil and blast can get to you after 4-500 round day. also heats up fast. i have shot just about every varmint cal out there and kinda fell in love with the 20 tac.. 204 vol and made from 223 brass. if you dont reload the 223 with 40 gr bullets is tough to beat.

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Ultimate varmint gun = AR-15 too many configurations to count.

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There is no such thing as an ultimate varmint rifle. I use a battery of rifles in various calibers. Three Savage Precision Target Action based rifles with a series of easily swapped barrels and bolt heads, so I can tailor them to the need. Remingtons, some with Savage style swap barrels for the same purpose, some not. A Cooper, a Sako Benchrest, and a rimfire or two.

Cartridges include: .17HMR, .204 Ruger, .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .22-250 Remington Ackley Improved, .220 Swift, 6mm PPC, .243 WSSM, .257 Roberts Ackley Improved, 6.5x284. Some have more than one barrel with different twists for different bullets. All depends on what is begin hunted and where.

My favorites and the most flexible are the .204 Ruger, .223 Remington and the .243 WSSM - the later for long range and sheer spectacle of atomizing ground squirrels. The .204 Ruger seems to be the hands down most fun, and even when I think I missed - I find a splat.

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boatanchor,

I've been reading about guys like yourself in the VHA for a long time. That's pretty impressive shooting/equipment.

I think it was Gordy Critters that wrote an article that involved an attempt to lay down some PD's @ 3,000yds. The curvature of the earth came into play and they ended up needing FO to radio back impacts.

Some pretty cool stuff.


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Travis,

That's Gritters, not Critters, although the latter would make a great pen name for a varmint mag.... grin

It was Gordy and his buddy Lee trying for the long range dogs. I shot with both of them at the 1K matches in Pella,Ia.

I've talked to another guy that as trying for a two mile dog. He was only trying the first hour or so of daylight before the mirage kicked in. He said he could have three bullets in the air at the same time......

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My bad aalf. I knew it was Gritters, I guess my brain and fingers just weren't connected this morning. grin

Two miles... That schit is crazy.



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A good man with a Nylon 66 and a Red dot can do that...


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