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#6435503 - 04/23/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: Calhoun]
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Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Calhoun
So the pads were iffy enough that Steven asked half a dozen collectors about it, but I'm a jerk for commenting on it.

I've probably posted more pics of guns here for open and frank discussion than anybody. I've never had problems with somebody pointing things out or discussing any issues, whether it was a rat or a queen.

The one thing drilled into me when I got here was to expect honest discussions of any gun posted.

Guess I missed the change. I'll just withhold comments in the future, maybe discuss things via PM with a few folks if I hang around.




Rory
I never said ya was a jerk, nor drew, I just stated my opinion.
I personally think the Gun is very Nice, and looked at all the Photo's, Personally My opinion, the way the photo shows led to comments,,all other on the other side look right, optical allusion or what ever ya want to call it.

To me the rifle is right as rain.
I just get sick and tired when a person post a gun that there proud of in what they obtained,and the nit pick fly shiz comes along.
For Me, and Only the way i personally feel, i get tired of flea shiz picking on person's gun, weather is reworked, brought back to life or even slightly retouched ,or original.

The rifle he obtain, is not dicked with, or bubbed' and is a very nice specimen of a rifle.

I don't pat back's for brownie points, just stating my opinion,just like you or any-one else is entailed to there.
But i looked at all the photo's and all look right,,so throw the last one out because of angle is my opinion.



P.S.
Stephen sorry if i stirred your post the wrong way.
Personally as i said before Nice rifle, congrats and enjoy.
Steve


Edited by 1899sav (04/23/12)
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#6435549 - 04/23/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: billy336]
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Originally Posted By: billy336


Someone should start a thread about what NOT to do on this forum, then have Rick make it a sticky.


Do NOT voice an opinion and expect there to be intelligent discussion about it without it eventually degrading into name calling.

Do NOT post pictures of your trophy guns and expect everybody to love them as much as you do.

Do NOT panic and overreact if you get a little sand in your vagina, it is easily washed out with a little soap and water.

Cracks me up.....................laughin.
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#6435787 - 04/23/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: 99guy]
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99guy, good post sir!!



Edited by billy336 (04/23/12)
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#6435802 - 04/23/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: billy336]
mad_dog Offline
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Actually, I'm more partial to this quote:


Originally Posted By: Calhoun
Ain't nobody on this site perfect - except Joe.


At least one of us here has got it right. grin
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#6437180 - 04/24/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: mad_dog]
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Quote:
Ain't nobody on this site perfect - except Joe



Not so.

Joe's a drunkard through and through, He's a friend though he's true blue, He's a soak so they say, he tried to get to Heaven but he went the other way, so drink chugalug chugalug chugalug.... grin

Anyway, nice rifle LBK!
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#6437223 - 04/24/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: Skidrow]
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Have you ever been down to an Irishman's shanty,
where liquor is scarce and maggots are plenty,
They eat with their fingers,
and fight with their knives,
To keep the damn maggots from taking their live's.
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#6439415 - 04/24/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: Jed 1899]
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Posts: 1064
Loc: Dearborn, Mich.
Nice Pre-R. The one thing that would make it look better..... is if was in my safe. grin whistle
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#6441392 - 04/25/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: oldotter]
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Registered: 02/20/12
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Clear to see that you pack of over critical wolves have managed once again to alienate a member or members.

It has been incredible to see the amount of disdain here.

I feel like there is a theme.

I wish you could learn to behave.

I watch and notice many of the regulars are no longer posting, at least publically.

I am sure that of this group the private message system is hot.

From what I observed, many of the posters love to give honest criticism/observations but when it pertains to their situation they do not do well. That is a 2 way street.

In regard to what began this incredible posting, I personally would like to own this rifle. It doesn't matter to me that it has had some tasteful work done to it. It is nice and a rifle to be hunted.

Fireballredux loves you all! Misfits and the like! Good Day.
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#6442703 - 04/25/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: fireballredux]
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You haven't even been around long enough to know who the regulars were that aren't around anymore.
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#6442747 - 04/25/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: mad_dog]
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Originally Posted By: mad_dog
You haven't even been around long enough to know who the regulars were that aren't around anymore.


..was thinking the same thing! I been around for about 3-4 years and i haven't a farking clue who the real regulars are myself!
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#6442853 - 04/25/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: fireballredux]
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 1064
Loc: Dearborn, Mich.
Some people read more into various posts than others. The "Savage Collectors" are like a family, disfunctional, but a family. Some are thin skinned, some are thick skinned, and everybody has a "drunkel",(drunk uncle for the obviously challenged) but these folks somehow always survive. They get their panties in a wad, but always get over it. Nobody here hasn't heard anything on a post they probably havent heard at the local pub, or from a close acquaintence. Hell, my friends are ruder to my face than most posts here are in print. Guess what, I still am here carrying on.

This "Savage Collectors" thread might be sometimes brutal, but its entertaining, and learn along the way.

Just my .02 cents
Jerry
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#6442939 - 04/25/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: oldotter]
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Registered: 11/28/06
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I just wish some of the experts around here would tell me if my H has been sanded or not and how they can tell which guns left the factory with rounded cheeks and which did not... I've never known any in this group to not be willing to share info before... I don't understand why we are so locked up now...
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#6442961 - 04/25/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: lovemy99]
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....SANDVAGE as opposed to SAVAGE would be my guess Drew. It's been said before and I must agree...dys-fukcin-functional...at it's very finest!
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#6443456 - 04/26/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: fatjack34]
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Speaking for myself, I am not deterred by the posts that some find troublesome. I will say I like coming here and enjoy the group. That is not my primary motivation for coming here. I come here to learn. I come to this site more than any other site because I learn more here than any other site. I even learned something from this particular thread. One thing I will say about learning is that it can be painful. There is a gunsmith I use and aside from doing great work, I like him because I learn from him. He has a lot of knowledge of vintage firearms and on top of that, he has a great eye. A really great eye - that comes from decades of experience. Let me give you an example of learning equals pain. I went out to his place to pick up a couple rifles. I usually bring a couple along just to show off. He has a great appreciation of vintage stuff and he enjoys seeing some of the odd/special stuff I have. I brought one piece out (a non-Savage lever rifle) and he oohed and ahhed over the high percentage original finish, the multiple special order features, the rarity and so on. Then (yes, there is a shoe dropping here) he said, a really great gun except for those extra holes in the metal.... Me: "there are no extra holes in th metal." And, I am in fact correct, there were no extra holes in the gun. But then he clarified, "there used to be extra holes in this gun." And of course he was kind enough to show me where they had been. CRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!! That day was not a good day for me. But, I did learn. Sometimes I wish I never would have brought that gun out there, but then again, that chances that I would make the same mistake twice. This experience reminds me a lot of this forum. When I handed my gunsmith that gun I didn't say, "see if you can find anything wrong with it." But, I did hand it to him and he's going to look it over and comment. I went back and looked over the comments made about LBK's rifle. I thought they were quite diplomatic and posed in the context of trying to gain a better understanding of what each person was seeing. I have posted photos of many rifles I have, some titled to the effect, "Boltman shows one off" and believe me, it is not without some trepidation. I'm not worried anyone is going to be mean but I do worry someone will see something I didn't. And if they do, it's not going to make my day. I'd still rather swallow my lumps and keep on learning.
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#6444610 - 04/26/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: boltman]
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Does the holy gun still reside at your place boltman?

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#6444722 - 04/26/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: TheOldTree]
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Do I have to say? wink
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#6444753 - 04/26/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: boltman]
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I really hate it when people remind me that the gun I drooled over, bought on sight and rushed to share has a flaw or modification that I totally missed due to over exuberance.
However .... it has happened to me more than once. The worst was a Savage I proudly showed my Dad years back .... took him all of 10 seconds to point out barrel markings later than rifle.
Lesson learned ... I haven't made that mistake again.
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#6446104 - 04/26/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: BillR]
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Lessons worth learning usually cost. You just want to keep the tuition down. I've had two costly Savage lessons so far. One of them still is here to taunt.
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#6446152 - 04/26/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: steve99]
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Acceptance is the answer to all of our problems today....
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#6446186 - 04/26/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: steve99]
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The first, "big dollar" (for me at the time) Winchester I bought was a M1886 SRC in .45/90 (gunshow in Houston, TX). My Dad's '86 in .33 WCF is the gun that started it all for me when I was a very young boy. Anyway, when I started collecting (in my late teens) I wanted to add 86's to my collection. The time came where I had added a few rifles but the SRC was a holy grail for me - and one in a .45/90 really got my blood going. I ended up selling two nice Winchesters at the show (one was a M1895 .405 takedown) just to get the cash to buy this '86 SRC. I got it and later discovered that two tap holes had been welded up for a Lyman receiver sight. Sometimes guns can be very forgiving and the cost of tuition on this incident turned out to be zero. I got my money back out of it - with full disclosure of the holes!
By the way, back to LBK's gun, I will say that we are looking at pictures here and pictures are not always completely accurate. I noted that Rory's very first post that poses the question about LBK's wood possibly having been sanded, acknowledges this:

"gorgeous rifle but that picture does make it look sanded."
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#6465803 - 05/02/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: Longbeardking]
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Originally Posted By: Longbeardking
There are secrets to beating the crowd!!!!!! grin grin



Mr. LongBeardKing,

I go to some shows but I get easily discouraged by the lines and the such. I would be interested to hear your secrets to beating the crowd. Is it "knowing" somebody at the door or on the inside? Is it being "that guy" that most are jealous of and have ill feelings toward because they have an "in"?

Please share. I am interested. If PM is more comfortable than please feel free to use that medium Mr. LongBeardKing.

Thank You!

Fireballredux
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#6465855 - 05/02/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: fireballredux]
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Hes turkey hunting be gone till next week!
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#6465884 - 05/02/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: saddlering]
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Mr. SaddleRing,

Thank you.
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#6467095 - 05/03/12 Re: Syracuse was FANTASTIC!!! [Re: fireballredux]
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The best way I know of to beat the crowd and actually get at the best deals is to purchase a table and essentially not use it. That allows you to be there for the all important set-up where the dealers scoop up the best deals before the public ever sees them. And, it is less crowded.
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