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#6433785 - 04/23/12 01:43 AM Gartman Arms custom rifle builds
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Hey guys, searching for info or others with a rifle made by this same guy. I have a custom built rifle, 03a3 action with a custom drilled 25-06 bull barrel built by Gartman Arms, formerly Johnson-Gartman Arms. Stock is stamped March 1959, i have found limited info on this online, this guy was supposedly very skilled at bore drilling and i want to see how many of these rifles may be out there. The other 3 i have found are all mauser actions, one with 7mm mag barrel, one with 6mm rem barrel, one with .270 win barrel. Let me know any info you may have on this gunsmith or the rifles that may be out there. thanks




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#6436544 - 04/23/12 06:49 PM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: spotshuntclub]
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spotshuntclub-
Apologies in advance if you've already learned the following:

There's a catalog reprint from the period of your rifle available from Cornell publications. (See image linked below.)

Supposedly they're still in busines at 570 Washington St, Wrentham, MA 02093 (508) 384-3791

It would be interesting to know whether the "Johnson" part of Johnson-Gartman was Eric Johnson, who at that time I think lived in Connecticut.

--Bob

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#6436803 - 04/23/12 07:59 PM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: BullShooter]
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i believe thqat is correct, i heard he lived in Rhode Island. I saw the catalog, i think i will order one to go with the gun. I was hoping someone would have one made by them or would know what the gun might be worth now. I guess we will see, i am sure someone on this site must have a rifle made by them.
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#6440220 - 04/24/12 07:03 PM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: spotshuntclub]
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Being from the neighborhood (so to speak), lo these past 55 years, I can attest to the fact that Johnson-Gartman is still in business on the main drag (Rte 1), actually on the Wrentham/Plainville, MA city line - but AFAIK are only in the deep hole drilling business today. ( They were temporarily located in RI for about 10 years IIRC, just B 4 Y2K )

There were always one or two of their VG quality sporters in local gunshops (MA & RI) - but I've never personally run across one with a bull barrel.

They were justly famous for the early stages of the lightweight rifle craze, by making very slim sporters with "pencil" barrels in the 1950's & 60's - VERY slender, no sights.

IIRC, The "Johnson" of Johnson-Gartman was previously the same Melvin Johnson from Johnson Automatics in Rhode Island, that made the Johnson M1941 .30-06 Automatic Rifle for the US Army.

http://www.johnsonautomatics.com/History.htm

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#6440894 - 04/25/12 12:28 AM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: Rangr44]
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Thanks for the info, I am trying to figure out what this rifle may be worth. There just aren't many other one out there to compare it to. This is a tough gun to research i might just have to call their shop, which is only open 2 days a week i hear.
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#6441671 - 04/25/12 08:44 AM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: spotshuntclub]
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Good Luck - I haven't been in there since the early 70's, and those guys were no spring chickens, even back then.

Hopefully, whomever's running the business today (maybe grandchildren) will have a clue.

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#6442593 - 04/25/12 01:01 PM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: Rangr44]
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I have a FN Mauser actioned .300 Savage that has a 'Johnson Automatics' barrel on it. Also the link to the Johnson rifle is interesting. I didn't realize the Johnson bolt is like an AR bolt. I always assumed that Eugene Stoner came up with that bolt design. Was Johnson the first to use the small radial locking lugs? PH

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#6444523 - 04/25/12 11:05 PM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: Plateau Hunter]
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no actually i heard the old man benko is still alive and running the shop lol.
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#6479907 - 05/07/12 02:07 AM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: spotshuntclub]
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#6488004 - 05/09/12 12:32 PM Re: Gartman Arms custom rifle builds [Re: BullShooter]
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Originally Posted By: BullShooter
spotshuntclub-
Apologies in advance if you've already learned the following:

There's a catalog reprint from the period of your rifle available from Cornell publications. (See image linked below.)

Supposedly they're still in busines at 570 Washington St, Wrentham, MA 02093 (508) 384-3791

It would be interesting to know whether the "Johnson" part of Johnson-Gartman was Eric Johnson, who at that time I think lived in Connecticut.

--Bob


I always thought the Johnson part of Johnson-Gartman was Melvin Johnson of Johnson Automatic Rifle fame.

Look closely at the 1958 prices above - and this was in the day when you could mail order a firearm!

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