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Originally Posted by Swampman700
A quick search on Dangerous Muzzleloaders will tell the tale. You don't have to take my word for it. CVAs are accurate that isn't the issue. The H&Rs are a lot less finicky. If you want a bottom of the line product, then a spainish made rifle will suit you well. There are bold shooters and old shooters but there are no old bold shooters. Live long, avoid spainish made guns.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
I carefully examined a bunch of CVAs today. I wouldn't own one if it were a gift. Very poor workmanship.


Well then i will sell my Apex right away based on your examination.

I bet you didn't find an Apex


You'd be safer that way.

They had several....


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
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Originally Posted by Swampman700
I carefully examined a bunch of CVAs today. I wouldn't own one if it were a gift. Very poor workmanship.


Well then i will sell my Apex right away based on your examination.

I bet you didn't find an Apex


You'd be safer that way.

They had several....


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Originally Posted by iambrb
[quote=Chainsaw]First off if I am correct you cannot buy a new H&R product muzzleloader so if you want a switchbarrel stainless product you could probably chose the CVA.

The barrel accessory program page at the H&R site still shows them. A call to them showed that only offer it as a fitted product now:
http://www.hr1871.com/Support/accessoryProgram.asp


I also own a CVA Scout stainless stand alone rifle in 7mm-08 and fit and function in this rifle is superb. It is a finicky shooter though and I have found one bullet and load it shoots accurately and just use that one loading.

I do not doubt this and this is likely how I would use it, just wondering if the H&R is the same way?[quote]


Like I indicated in my post the only way to get a H&R muzzleloader is with a accessory barrel after sending your receiver to Ilion NY for a factory fitting.

The H&R single shot rifles I own are very good shooters and am happy with them after tinkering with them to get them to shoot.


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And the H&R is safe to shoot.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
And the H&R is safe to shoot.


You just don't give it up do you?


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
I carefully examined a bunch of CVAs today. I wouldn't own one if it were a gift. Very poor workmanship.


bullsh*t....you examined them? How convenient that you suddenly have a supply of CVA to study on hand...when this thread comes up?

Kinda hard for you to remark on one if you havent used one. Least it should be.....

To the OP, I havent used a CVA...but I love Handi's and I love T/Cs. Any will do to be honest.


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