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#6456768 - 04/30/12 Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN
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I need recommendations for factory .308 elk cartridges that will be stabilised well by a 1:12 twist.

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#6457097 - 04/30/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Lionclaw]
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I'd Shoot The 130 TSSX's Or Might Step Up To The 168 TSSX. Both are In Factory Loaded Ammo.

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#6458019 - 04/30/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Mull]
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Federal 150gr TSX

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#6458267 - 04/30/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Lionclaw]
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Any of the premium big game loads with 150-165 gr. bullets or any of the 180 gr. loads. E

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#6458296 - 04/30/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Eremicus]
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+1

I have two 1:12 308's and they both shoot well with bullets all the way to 180 gr. Maybe heavier, too, but I haven't tried them. The only ones I've shot elk with are the 165-gr. Interbond and the 180-gr. Partition.

There are lots of other factory loads that would work well: e-Tips, GMX's, Accubonds, etc. Heck, I think that the Hornady 165-gr. SPBT is good enough for elk.

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#6460168 - 05/01/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: John_G]
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I used a 168 gr. TTSX handload at about 2700 fps two years ago on a 500 lb. cow with good results; behind the near shoulder and thru the off shoulder at a little over a hundred yds. Really tore up the lungs and dropped her after 20 yds. I think it probably could have been done with a lesser bullet, even a C&C, but I think the next time I get drawn I won't change a thing.
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#6460291 - 05/01/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: lastround]
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180 gr partition

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#6460334 - 05/01/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: hotsoup]
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A 12 twist will stabilize almost any factory HUNTING round. My son uses 180 grain Norma Oryx loads and Federal tactical (loaded with 165 grain TBBC). Both have been just great.
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#6460467 - 05/01/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Lionclaw]
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Any premium design bullet fodder stuff from 165 grains on up.

In ALL hunting situations, shot placement is paramount. But in elk hunting a little thought should be given to bullet construction, regardless of weight and diameter...... Unless you using a .50 cal or something grin
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#6467214 - 05/03/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: boomwack]
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Many Thanks for all your help. I am glad to read that bullets upto 180 grains should stabilise well in a 1:12 twist. That really opens up a lot of possibilites.
I am seriously looking at a Browning BLR in .308 but was indecisive because I had mistakenly thought that the Blr's 1:12 twist would not be able to properly stabilise anything more than 165 grain which would have limited my choices.After hearing many of your alls positive experiences with 180 grains I can set aside my doubts and buy the BLR in .308


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#6472604 - 05/04/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Lionclaw]
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You would need a .464 cal. barrel. Twist stab. will most likely not work with the 2,8" projectile length.

Getting the rifling to engage without bumping the shoulder would probably be an issue as well.

At least weight carries up front.

For method of propulsion muzzle loading is the way to fly.
Make sure of a healthy crimp, lest you ram the bullet while seating the cartidge.

An other thing to watch is primer temp sensitivity. The hot gases may set it off. Accuracy will not be to good...,

but, per your request for stabilizing a cartridge, you would have not only the bullet flying, but the rest of the components as well - more metal in the air.

The only advantage over just sticking with stabilizing a .308 projectile.
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#6475101 - 05/05/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Ready]
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Originally Posted By: cmg
You would need a .464 cal. barrel. Twist stab. will most likely not work with the 2,8" projectile length.

Getting the rifling to engage without bumping the shoulder would probably be an issue as well.

At least weight carries up front.

For method of propulsion muzzle loading is the way to fly.
Make sure of a healthy crimp, lest you ram the bullet while seating the cartidge.

An other thing to watch is primer temp sensitivity. The hot gases may set it off. Accuracy will not be to good...,

but, per your request for stabilizing a cartridge, you would have not only the bullet flying, but the rest of the components as well - more metal in the air.

The only advantage over just sticking with stabilizing a .308 projectile.



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#6477357 - 05/06/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Reloder28]
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WTF X 2???
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#6477647 - 05/06/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Lionclaw]
Ready Offline
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Originally Posted By: Lionclaw
I need recommendations for factory .308 elk cartridges that will be stabilised well by a 1:12 twist.


Cartridge - assembly of components bullet, powder, hull, primer

Bullet- Projectile to be propelled down a sizefitting, rifled barrel from cartridge

First post was a mindtrip of what it would take to stabilze a cartridge in a rifle barrel.

An attempt at humor.


Edited by cmg (05/06/12)
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#6478071 - 05/06/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Ready]
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Originally Posted By: cmg
Originally Posted By: Lionclaw
I need recommendations for factory .308 elk cartridges that will be stabilised well by a 1:12 twist.


Cartridge - assembly of components bullet, powder, hull, primer

Bullet- Projectile to be propelled down a sizefitting, rifled barrel from cartridge

First post was a mindtrip of what it would take to stabilze a cartridge in a rifle barrel.

An attempt at humor.


A Wise Guy, eh?

But I'll bet he doesn't use a piece or rope for a gun sling... grin

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#6479395 - 05/07/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Lionclaw]
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I shoot 150 grain Accubonds from my -06 at 2900 fps for elk

I'm sure there is a factory load in Federal for these in .308 Win

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#6485111 - 05/08/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Ready]
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And I understood the humor....

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#6485171 - 05/08/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Lionclaw]
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suppose I missed it

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#6501346 - 05/14/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: tedthorn]
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#6506584 - 05/15/12 Re: Seeking recommendations for light elk cartridge in .308 WIN [Re: Bulltail]
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Registered: 12/27/11
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[quote=Bulltail]Here are a couple of articles worthy of consideration. First:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_7_53/ai_n27260167/?tag=content;col1

About 150 grain projectiles:

http://www.americanhunter.org/articles/a-new-ruling-for-the-30-06-sprg/

Small band of hunters around here have used the factory 150 gr core-lokt 30-06 no matter the game.

Well, more or less its the same tribe that uses 30-30, 308 some even a 243. deer, elk, bear, wooly mammoth it just don't matter to them shooters. Its how ya shoot, and knowing limitations.

I subscribe to the school premium bullets greatly level the playing field of caliber/weight selection. Making it not such an issue on what to use on whitetail to wooly mammoth grin
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