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#6464418 - 05/02/12 Rifle bashing
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Can anyone tell me why people get so upset when someone says something bad about the brand of rifle they use? I mean good Lord people it is just a tool. Don't get me wrong because I am a rifle loony through and through but I don't get my panties all bunched up if someone doesn't like a gun that I do. Can we grow up?

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#6464431 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: pacecars]
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I've read it too, its funny as hell, ICGAS if folks like my rifles or not, if a man likes what he has, or in some cases may be all he can afford at the time, no one should look or talk down another mans weapon.

After all, he is a sportsman and trying to hunt and shoot, and his VOTE is just as important than anyone else's.

Gunner


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#6464441 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: pacecars]
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Originally Posted By: pacecars
Can we grow up?



No, probably not. The same thing happens when the conversation turns to trucks, cars, whiskey, TV's, boots, tires, computers, etc. etc. etc.... If there is more than one type, brand or model of something there will be lively discussions. grin
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#6464443 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: gunner500]
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It is all about the need of some people to believe they have the best and they are right about everything.... If you do not agree with what they say then they get their undies in a wad.... basic play yard behavior for those who have not grown up yet....
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#6464449 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: gunner500]
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John Bernard Books: I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

I believe this is where people feel the line has been crossed, when their gun has been insulted. I know I disliked Dodge trucks for years and now I drive one...
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#6464451 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: pacecars]
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Originally Posted By: pacecars
Can anyone tell me why people get so upset when someone says something bad about the brand of rifle they use? I mean good Lord people it is just a tool. Don't get me wrong because I am a rifle loony through and through but I don't get my panties all bunched up if someone doesn't like a gun that I do. Can we grow up?


Say what you will about the woman I'm with. But leave my rifles alone.


Travis

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#6464454 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: shrapnel]
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Originally Posted By: shrapnel
John Bernard Books: I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

I believe this is where people feel the line has been crossed, when their gun has been insulted. I know I disliked Dodge trucks for years and now I drive one...


That makes me want to buy a Dodge.


Travis

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#6464455 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: Sako]
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My favorite is the optics forum...lots of good optics out there...but if yours arent GREAT, you just dont merit the bandwidth...the phunny part is that those who expound at length about miracle optics ordinarily do their shooting from a bench someplace...those who slap a Leupy on an '06 and use them till the finish is worn off- with nary a problem I might add- are woefully absent from the conversations...
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#6464466 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: deflave]
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Originally Posted By: deflave


Say what you will about the woman I'm with. But leave my rifles alone.


Travis



Do you know how hard I'm biting my virtual tongue on this one?? eek


I will say one thing in your defense...your rifles look to be the more tawdry of the two...especially that green and yellow 10/22 thing...
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#6464467 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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you mean slap on a Conquest......
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#6464469 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: kenjs1]
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Originally Posted By: kenjs1
you mean slap on a Conquest......



Bastid! grin
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#6464477 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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Originally Posted By: ingwe
My favorite is the optics forum...lots of good optics out there...but if yours arent GREAT, you just dont merit the bandwidth....
You think that's bad, just wander over to the 'photography' forum.. If you don't use Canon - you're dog barf...
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#6464486 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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Originally Posted By: ingwe
...those who slap a Leupy on an '06 and use them till the finish is worn off- with nary a problem I might add- are woefully absent from the conversations...


Not absent.....but their opinions and experiences get lost in the din...They can't POSSIBLY know anything... grin
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#6464504 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: BobinNH]
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Originally Posted By: BobinNH
Originally Posted By: ingwe
...those who slap a Leupy on an '06 and use them till the finish is worn off- with nary a problem I might add- are woefully absent from the conversations...


Not absent.....but their opinions and experiences get lost in the din...They can't POSSIBLY know anything... grin



True dat Bob...and this is not to mention the rare devastatingly handsome individual with more practical experience on game than Karamojo Bell...who happily sallies forth with a 1.5-5 Leupy mounted on a push feed 7x57 and fills arks with wreckless abandon...... whistle
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#6464536 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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Originally Posted By: ingwe
Originally Posted By: BobinNH
Originally Posted By: ingwe
...those who slap a Leupy on an '06 and use them till the finish is worn off- with nary a problem I might add- are woefully absent from the conversations...


Not absent.....but their opinions and experiences get lost in the din...They can't POSSIBLY know anything... grin



True dat Bob...and this is not to mention the rare devastatingly handsome individual with more practical experience on game than Karamojo Bell...who happily sallies forth with a 1.5-5 Leupy mounted on a push feed 7x57 and fills arks with wreckless abandon...... whistle


I wuz thinkin' that....the thought crossed my mind! grin
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#6464567 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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When my shooting is good enough to notice the difference in accuracy between gun makers I'll feel entitled to criticize.

That said, many people on the campfire, myself included, have personal preferences about seemingly insignificant qualities in firearms. What might be important to me, like having iron sights on a rifle, doesn't mean anything to anyone else.

In my opinion, the level of financial ability in hunting varies tremendously from person to person. Some people will only use the very best regardless of cost. Others will be just as satisfied using an older gun because the animal doesn't know the cost.

I've found a lot of good and bad information here on qualities I simply haven't considered.
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#6464580 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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Originally Posted By: ingwe
My favorite is the optics forum...lots of good optics out there...but if yours arent GREAT, you just dont merit the bandwidth...the phunny part is that those who expound at length about miracle optics ordinarily do their shooting from a bench someplace...those who slap a Leupy on an '06 and use them till the finish is worn off- with nary a problem I might add- are woefully absent from the conversations...


Very true. I guess if you spend a couple of grand on a scope you may feel the need to justify it to yourself. I like Leupolds best but have no problems with people that don't

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#6464617 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: Dess]
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I think it shows our self important concepts. If I have made a choice it must be the correct choice If someone points out the possibility of a better choice it must be a criticsm of me personally.

The first time I encountered this with firearms was at a PPC shoot. I had purchased a Taurus 2" barrel revolver to compete in the side match for snubbies. There was much derisive laughter and commentary on the poor quality of the gun. That is until I shot a 600/54X round with it. It was the first off market firearm I ever purchased but would not be the last.

Please realise that criticism will come no matter what your choices are. If you believe your choice was actually flawed do something about it. In all reality your choice is Aas valid as anyone elses.
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#6464674 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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Originally Posted By: ingwe
Originally Posted By: deflave


Say what you will about the woman I'm with. But leave my rifles alone.


Travis



Do you know how hard I'm biting my virtual tongue on this one?? eek


I will say one thing in your defense...your rifles look to be the more tawdry of the two...especially that green and yellow 10/22 thing...


I don't know what tawdry means so I'll just play it safe and tell you to GFY.


Travis

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#6464786 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: deflave]
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Yea,but I still won't have a Remington 700. I mean really,why would I go to the trouble to get it out of the safe,bag it, collect some ammo,drive to range to shoot and have the bolt handle fall off....WTF? and just sit there with nothing to shoot?
I 'll stick to my Rugers,Winchesters,Brno's and Mausers...

now,we can begin..."Fight Club"!
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#6464829 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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Originally Posted By: ingwe
Originally Posted By: BobinNH
Originally Posted By: ingwe
...those who slap a Leupy on an '06 and use them till the finish is worn off- with nary a problem I might add- are woefully absent from the conversations...


Not absent.....but their opinions and experiences get lost in the din...They can't POSSIBLY know anything... grin



True dat Bob...and this is not to mention the rare devastatingly handsome individual with more practical experience on game than Karamojo Bell...who happily sallies forth with a 1.5-5 Leupy mounted on a push feed 7x57 and fills arks with wreckless abandon...... whistle
And not to mention, humble too laugh

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#6464848 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: ingwe]
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Quote:
... and fills arks with wreckless abandon ...


Spelling the same way he fills the arks. laugh

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#6464886 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: mathman]
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I wouldn't argue with a guy that has been using the same equipment for 150 years.


Travis

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#6465007 - 05/02/12 Re: Rifle bashing [Re: deflave]
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have had t/c products, remington, weatherby, howa, winchester, savage, and a couple mausers i had built. other than one ruger and one winchester, they would all stay sub-moa just about every time i went to the range. with handloads tailored for them and a stable rest, not much different.

i'd say on average the savages and vanguards shot best, but not far behind were remington and t/c.

so i'm not the type to pick only one and throw a fit about its qualities. smile

but i will rag on swampy now and then
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