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I have some Woodleigh 165 grain protected point bullets coming that I would like to try in my Savage 1899 30-30 but I have the Lee and Speer manuals and neither lists a load for 165 grain bullets. Should I be able to use data for 170 grain jacketed bullets to work off? Since there is only a 5 grain difference in weight should it work or should I keep looking until I can find a book with data for the 165s?


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Weight wise you won't notice the difference. Length wise you may have trouble functioning in the magazine. You'll probably want to check that first.


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In comparison to the Speer 170 grain bullet, pressure would drop by about 3 Kpsi. I use the Hornady, and in that case, a small pressure increase is indicated (2 kpsi).

This is using Quickload, and assuming all load particulars other than the bullet are consistent.

I won't tell you do it or not, just that I think I would be comfortable using it with my .30-30 load, which is running under 38.5 Kpsi now.

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Thank you both for your input, it is much appreciated.

I have been using the 150 grain Woodleigh Flatpoint and I have them loaded a little long and the 165s aren't much longer so I think I can get them to run through the magazine, but I will make up a couple dummy rounds first to make sure. If I can't get them to work I can always use them in the .30-06.

I'm not one to approach maximums anyway in my handloads (except in my .357 Blackhawk) so I'm just looking for a nice comfortable easy shooting woods whitetail load.

Thanks again. smile


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You can always trim the case back a bit to seat the bullet somewhat deeper, this is what hornady does with factory ammo in the 4570. The 3030 has alot ofcase neck.

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I hadn't thought of that, Hornady does it with the .450 Marlin LE brass too.


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