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I've gone in the other direction with one of my M98s. The sporterized 20" barrel (bobbed original military) rifle actually shoots 125gr Hornady spitzers better, than it did any of the 150s. 52grs of IMR 4064 works very well with that bullet.
Not only is it a joy to shoot accuracy and recoil-wise, it kills deer just as dead as the 150s did. Slimmed down old Fajen walnut sporter stock, still with the plastic butt plate. Never did get around to installing a recoil pad, doesn't need one now.
The absolute worst-kicking K98 I've ever fired, was in original condition (nasty steel butt plate), shooting some old milsurp loads. IIRC, they were 1950s vintage FMJ loads from some South American nation?
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The 8 x 57 is an excellent round for deer, elk, and black bear.
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I've gone in the other direction with one of my M98s. The sporterized 20" barrel (bobbed original military) rifle actually shoots 125gr Hornady spitzers better, than it did any of the 150s. 52grs of IMR 4064 works very well with that bullet.
Not only is it a joy to shoot accuracy and recoil-wise, it kills deer just as dead as the 150s did. Slimmed down old Fajen walnut sporter stock, still with the plastic butt plate. Never did get around to installing a recoil pad, doesn't need one now.
The absolute worst-kicking K98 I've ever fired, was in original condition (nasty steel butt plate), shooting some old milsurp loads. IIRC, they were 1950s vintage FMJ loads from some South American nation? 125 grain hornady? tell me more!
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Flat base spire point. Cat. #3230.
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Hard to beat the 8x57 in the woods of the North East. Been using one for 40 yrs..
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I have two R93 Blaser barrels, one R8 barrel, and a Sauer 202 Highland, all in 8X57. Another 52 CM fluted R8 barrel is due in the next 30 days. I guess I really like the 8X57.
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I have a question that is a bit confusing...what is the difference between 8x57is and 8x57js ? What do the letter designations stand for?
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Same thing, J and I were/are interchangeable.
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I had a dandy, single shot in 8X57JS, with set triggers, rifle weight about 5 1/2 -6 lbs, redfield 2 3/4 scope, knocked the snot out of a big doe at 50yrds, one fall, should have kept it but the stock was 1- 1/2 to short for me!
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Bingo. I purposely load mine to the performance level of domestic factory ammo. For that matter, that's the same level of performance I load .30/06's to also. After a mis-spent youth spent striving for maximum performance out of everything, I discovered the truth that milder loads kill just as well, are waaaaay more pleasant to shoot (leading to much more range time), just as accurate (and in many instances more so), offer less wear and tear on the gun, and are a bit easier on the pocketbook. What's not to like? I'm not likely to take 400+ yard shots or run into a brown bear or an enraged lion in my neck of the woods, so why be gunning for them? It's refreshing to me to see someone with some plain ol' fashioned 'GOOD SENSE'. Anyone who is truly a 'hunter' will have no trouble taking game at a reasonable distance with an 8x57.  I applaud you, Sir!   GH
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I had a beautiful sporterized M98 for several years that belonged to a neighbor. He'd never fired it, I talked him into letting me have it to see how it fared.
With some old Federal 170gr factory loads, it shot dead-on at 100 yards (Lyman receiver sight) and IRRC, about a one inch 3 shot group? Using my 150gr Sierra loads, it put three into a tad less than an inch at 100 yards, maybe an inch to the right and over an inch higher.
That wasn't a particularly stout reload, but some quicker'n factory loads. Would've liked to have bought that rifle, but he eventually wanted it back and refused to sell it.
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