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Who said anything about having to use the minimum?

I'm against Don's oft repeated opinion that you should always use the most gun you can handle.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Exactly my point. Why use "more gun" when it simply isn't necessary?


I don't want to NOR am I going to argue about this.

What you said is awfully close to using the minimum necessary.

IF I MISINTERPRETED, okay, but that's what it sounded like.


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The basis of the whole thread was the 257 Roberts. I don't consider this to be the minimum, if there is one.

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Me, too!

My favorite long action 6.5mm cartridges is the deader than dead 256 Newton. Born in the teens, died in the twenties, and hasn't been factory loaded for around 70 years.

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Originally Posted by Savage_99
For deer any normal person can shoot more gun.


Chambered in a regular round? You make no sense.


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I didn't see where minimalism s advocated; I think you're reading into the post.

That having been said, the Bob isn't it...

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Jeff,

The 256 Newton is a fantastic cartridge and is one of those I was thinking about along with a bunch of others. Another dead one I love is the old 300 Savage...

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The first short mag isn't dead for me. grin

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Amen here also, just like the Bob!!!

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Originally Posted by efw
I didn't see where minimalism s advocated; I think you're reading into the post.



Originally Posted by jwall
[quote=mathman]Exactly my point. Why use "more gun" when it simply isn't necessary?


I AM NOT ARGUING, just explaining ...

'more gun.... isn't necessary' = minimum.

YES he did not (than) but was AWFULLY CLOSE.

Just an explaination...nothing more..

IF I mis understood - OKAY - I'm not worried about it.



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I am a very new 257 Roberts fan, purchased a little Ruger UL here at the fire and used it on a doe hunt last fall, the 100 gn TTSX kicked out at a bit over 3100 fps did a fantastic job on the deer.

A very lightweight and easy carrying rifle with no recoil and a mild mannered report.

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jwall,

In my experience the .257 is a LONG way from minimal on deer-sized game. In fact quite a few people here in Montana use it on elk with complete confidence--or the .25-06, which really isn't as different as many people imagine.

Both Eileen and I hae used .25's from the .250 Savage to the .257 Weatherby on a bunch of game. They all kill real well if the bullet goes in the right place.


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Here's THE explanation of what I wrote, and I know since I wrote it.

Note the quotation marks I put around more gun when I responded to Savage_99's post. He was referring to using more gun relative to the topic cartridge of this thread, the 257 Roberts. When I quoted his words, their meaning in my post is then the same as their meaning in his: more gun relative to the 257 Roberts.

Putting the pieces together, my question

Why use "more gun" when it simply isn't necessary?

means exactly the same thing as

Why use more gun than the 257 Roberts when it simply isn't necessary?


To be excruciatingly explicit, context and the use of "" turns more gun into more gun than the 257 Roberts.

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I'm OUT.....undestand, it doesn't MATTER to me.


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OK, but you were the one who kept bringing it up after I corrected your misinterpretation.

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+1

Winchester is appropritely sized, and very nice looking rifle. Also handles nicely in the stores, when I was lusting after them. I've got a Ruger 77 (tang safety). in the "Bob", and I really like the round. It's just that the rifle is too damn heavy for such a connoiseur's round.

I bought the Ruger when I was about 14, and had saved up enough money. I had poured over ballistics charts, reloading manuals, etc. and decide on the .257. The Ruger was the only game in town at that time. I'd like to have gotten one in the Rem 700 mountain rifle when that came out, but the deal was sealed by that time.

Sighting in my Dad's Rem 760 30-06 carbine, helped me to decide on a softer shooting round, and while the "Bob" can be accused of bordering on obsolescence I thought that as a handloader I was somewhat immune to that. I got everything I hoped for, a sweet shooting, low recoiling rifle that knocks deer down. Just two whitetails so far, but one of these days soon I'm going to take a few coyotes with it.

I believe Mr. Ken Waters thinks highly of it for a deer rifle as well.

You won't go wrong with it.

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Well, I guess the score will be settled this fall- today I bought a NIB, Ruger #1 Light Sporter, Lipsey's edition, in .257 Roberts! I'm a big fan of #1's, although I only own 2 at the moment.
No pics yet, probably won't get delivery for another week or so, but I'm pumped!


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Originally Posted by jwall
I'm OUT.....undestand, it doesn't MATTER to me.


You do know more is often times just more right?

Let's say you're towing your 3000 pound boat with a Dodge Ram with a Cummins and Don says to use a Peterbilt, would that mean the Dodge was minimal?


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Dats a classy rifle!! laugh


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Congrats - Sounds like a SWEET rig.

I've always like the Light Sporter and the 257 R is more than enough.


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