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#6536188 - 05/24/12 08:29 PM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: 007FJ]
Raisuli Offline
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Registered: 07/24/11
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007FJ,

Have you hunted with Accubonds?

I am planning on trying a box of them with IMR 4350. From what I understand, they should be outstanding on mule deer.

R

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#6536249 - 05/24/12 09:12 PM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: Raisuli]
007FJ Offline
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Loc: Angleton, TX
My 18 year old son placed a nice shot on a Whitetail with it last season at 200 yards. I told him he could use anything he wanted since I was in the middle of recoping his 308. The turd took my 257 that has the Leica on it. I shot a hog that went about 150 with it though. I shot my two deer last season with a 338 Federal because he used the 257 that day and my A-Bolt 270 SS Stalker because I was hunting from an old tripod.

I like the 110 Accubonds. I want it to like 100 grain partitions but until the Accubonds in the factory ammo are used up some, I am not touching that rifle.

Richard
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#6536712 - 05/25/12 06:10 AM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: Mule Deer]
southtexas Offline
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Registered: 04/19/03
Posts: 3987
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Mule Deer
southtexas,

Just wondering: Do you check the bullet runout on your handloads?


MD: Only recently. You, and others here, convinced me that it is a variable that should be considered. But, to answer your question, the 100gr Hornady loads were not checked for runout. When the new 257 arrives, I will do that.

My question would be: If the same reloading equipment (press, dies, etc.) were used, and the same reloading techniques were used...and other bullets/loads shot well, is there a reason to believe that the runout with one bullet would be worse than the runout with another bullet? thanks for the lesson...

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#6537315 - 05/25/12 09:34 AM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: southtexas]
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Accubonds ... they're new enough only my most recent .257 was tested with them. I wasn't that impressed with the accuracy, the 100 grain ballistic tip, 100 grain partition, and 120 grain partition all shot considerably better. The other bullets shot 3/4 MOA or better, the ABs went 2 MOA or worse. The best accuracy I got with the 110 grain accubond in my gun came with RL22. I would still absolutely try the AB in any other .257 I laid hands on. Failure in one doesn't mean failure in another and those are GOOD bullets for the .257's velocity.

Tom
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#6537459 - 05/25/12 10:28 AM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: T_O_M]
Raisuli Offline
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Registered: 07/24/11
Posts: 3100
.257 Roberts Fans,

It has been many years since I have shot a rifle because of numerous shoulder surgeries. There's a good chance I'll need two more. It seems I have a genetic predisposition to shoulder injury. As a result I am going to sell my Belgian Browning .338 Win Mag and Marlin Guide Gun because I cannot risk another surgery due to recoil. Hence, my purchasing a .257 Roberts.

It has been a long time since I have hand loaded anything. I anticipate hand loading for my new .257 Roberts. Accuracy is my primary concern. So help me out and provide your expert opinions on the .257 Roberts. Which bullet surrenders the best accuracy? Since I hunt the Rockies where shots can be long, I'd like to go heavy for caliber, say 110 grains and heavier. I like through-and-through wounds. That way if a deer doesn't drop where he stands, a lot of blood on the forest floor makes it easier for my aging eyes to follow.

Finally, are Sierra bullets still of good quality? I used to shoot then out of my .270 Win. I don't think I have ever had to shoot a second at a deer or 'lope.


Thanks so much,

R


Edited by Raisuli (05/25/12 10:38 AM)

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#6537571 - 05/25/12 11:13 AM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: Raisuli]
southtexas Offline
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Registered: 04/19/03
Posts: 3987
Loc: Texas
I have had great success with the 120gr Hornady HP.

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#6541047 - 05/26/12 03:59 PM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: southtexas]
Raisuli Offline
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Registered: 07/24/11
Posts: 3100
I checked old .257 Roberts loading notes I have and some hand loads that were loaded according to an old manual, and they would be considered very warm by today's standards; however they shot very well in an old Featherweight that I gave to my nephew many years ago.

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#6541089 - 05/26/12 04:17 PM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: southtexas]
Mule Deer Offline
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Registered: 07/24/01
Posts: 33486
Loc: Banana Belt, Montana
southtexas,

Yeah, different bullets can seat considerably straighter in the same dies. I had an early lesson in this. My first .270 Winchester REALLY shot 150-grain Hornady Spire Points, as in 1" groups at 300 yards. I thought, of course, the rifle just "liked" them, but a number of years later, long after that .270 was gone and I'd gotten my first concentricity gauge, I tried a bunch of different bullets in the same seating die. The 150 Hornady Spire point seated MUCH straighter than any other bullet, probably due to the way the nose of the bullet fit the die.

In my experience, seating lighter (shorter) bullets straight is even more important. Heavier bullets with longer shanks tend to straighted out in the throat, or at least that's my guess.
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#6541132 - 05/26/12 04:35 PM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: Mule Deer]
Bighorn Offline
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Registered: 06/21/01
Posts: 4659
Loc: Southern Kolorado
MD,
How does average modern factory ammo compare to results achieved by handloads, in terms of straight bullet seating?


Edited by Bighorn (05/26/12 05:29 PM)
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#6541154 - 05/26/12 04:45 PM Re: Petload: 257 Roberts? [Re: Raisuli]
BobinNH Offline
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Registered: 01/28/07
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I would look really hard at the 115 gr Nosler Partition.It can be driven fairly fast,penetrates well,and IME is an accurate bullet.

Seems to stabilize well in the typical 10 twist Roberts,which can be a bit of an issue,sometimes in some barrels with the 120 gr...at least I have only gotten fair accuracy with them.

I have mostly used the 100 gr to hunt myself,but some of my friends have used the 115 on deer, antelope and black bear with good results.
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