Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles GAP .308 VS. GAP .260....Shootout!

My thoughts exactly, I look foward to this and any post he puts up. Very generous and much apreciated.

George told me they are in the process of getting another mold made.

I spend most of my time carrying my rifles right where that mag box is...
How do they carry with the mag box sticking down? I know they have nice slings

The balance point is right in front of the front guard screw. My hand does not touch the magazine. I carry my rifles in my hand quite a lot and it's not a concern.

Have the 130gr VLDs replaced the 139gr Scenar as your bullet of choice out of the 260? Or just for this rifle?

It'll be interesting to see the results of this test. But, if I was a betting man I know where I'd be laying my money...

I got a chance to do some shooting after a morning hunt today. The conditions were pretty good with very little mirage and a steady wind from 12 to 6 at about 8mph.




These were the first two five shot strings. Fired prone from a bipod and rear bag. The bullseye is 2.5". The shots were not timed and shot fairly quick, just as you would in a hunting situation. The .308 might have done a touch better here....






I moved back about 50 meters, changed the wind angle a bit and shot another five through both rifles...I held off .2 mils left/right for drift with both rifles. Advantage 130 VLD's here. Real world, a very dead big game animal all 20 shots.

There is slightly less recoil with the .260. Not that the .308 beats me up.

Thats all for today.....I'll keep shooting these two in the next few days.

Nice Pat.. how far out do you plan to test them ?

do the BC's of both bullets run pretty true to there claimed BC ?

I tweaked the BC to .490 on the 155 Scenars in mine and it runs great. The one we shot in Forsyth last August.

Could have also just lowered the velocity a hair and accomplished the same thing too.

The claimed .508 for the 155 was a little high as you said.....A G1 of 490-.495 has worked for me at 2950fps. A G1 of .552 has been spot on for the 130 VLD at 3000fps.

650-700 meters is plenty for these rifles. Probably as far as I would shoot at a big game animal under doable conditions.

I'm looking and waitng for some good, strong crosswind for my next session with them. I want to see what the real edge is with the 130 VLD is.

What are the shank lengths for these two from the face of the receiver? 1.75-1.80?

Thanks

Really awesome posts Pat. Super looking and functioning rigs, and I do believe those targets=dead critters and happy packing! grin

One question for you real quick, with the thinner pads, did you go with a longer LOP on the stock, or just leave it a bit shorter to have it be handier?

Thanks for the reports. They will help me with the 260 I am building. Using a LA Savage, SSS trigger, lug and a Pac-Nor barrel. Ordered some Lapua brass, Hornady 140 A-Max, Sierra 120 Match King, 130 Nosler AB and 130 Berger VLD bullets to play with.

I am looking forward to your next report.

Richard

I'm just a bettin but I'd go out on a limb and say that to 500 yds (easily as far as 99% of us have any business working in)they're both gonna be pretty much the same. If the wind gets to kicking then I'd give the edge to the 6.5. And once goes long 500-1K the 6.5 should prevail as well.

Penetration tests would be fun as well...grin

And 4 darn sure either rig is about as good as we're gonna get.

Dober

Awesome write up so far. Ive been working towards a 308 just like yours for a couple years now. You said youve killed over 800 coyotes with it, how long did that take?

1.70"

Those were taken with two different .308's, an M40A1 and a Surgeon Scalpel. I used those two rifles from 2005-2008. 98 were taken with 168SMK's with the M40A1, the rest were taken with 155gr scenars with the Surgeon. Since then I've been using my 6XC and GAP Crusader .260.

Pat,

Are you looking at building a 6mm Creedmore? Be interested to hear your thoughts on that platform for killing yotes and deer.

I have one now. It's built on a GAP10 semi-auto. It really shoots well. I've taken a few coyotes with it. Hornady is making brass with the correct headstamp for that cartridge now and is available through GA Precision.

It has a slight velocity edge over the 6XC....side by side they look almost identical. George designed it for use in comps where a lot of brass gets left on the ground. The Hornandy brass is less money than the Norma 6XC. I know a few guys who have built super accurate bolt rifles on it and love them.

Tanner, I keep the LOP the same on all of my rifles.

Thanks and sorry for the hijack!