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just open the door and let the Weasel in - all the baby chicks are safe with him watching the door!


like the child molestor buying the house at the corner where the school crosswalk is located.


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If this happens my kid is done.


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Yep, you are correct Doc.

As an example a former Sgt. then Bailiff here was just busted by the feds for kiddy porn on his computers. Knew the guy for years and never had a clue. He was a fixture at the local gun show at the fair grounds for years trading buying & selling. He also did DJ work at local events and campgrounds.

He got caught in one of the "honey trap" sites that tracked back to his IP and of course him.


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The left is using the Boy Scouts just like the schools. Get them young and indoctrinate them. You're losing the battle for young minds again. Think about it.


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I was a scout and have been an adult leader for many years, and my son is an Eagle Scout, hell the BSA is even included in my will, but if this goes through that will all change. There are other places that I can spend my time and resources. My daughter was in girl scouts and a camp counselor, but stays away from that organization because of recent policies, include having to teach planned parenthood propaganda. There are now alternatives to the girl scouts and I would assume the same will happen with the boys.

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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Sir Robert Baden-Powell must be a bit restless in his grave. frown

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If 10% of the world's population is gay (commonly accepted number from polls), then there is a one in tel change that Sir Robert Baden-Powell was gay. Just something to think about.

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BSA will not cave on this issue. Their largest single affiliate is the LDS Church.

DocRocket is right about the danger.

There is a big difference between being romantically attracted to the same sex and engaging in homosexual activities.


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Originally Posted by GeauxLSU
It would be nice to have one longstanding organization that children can participate in without having to accept homsexuality as not only socially acceptable/normal but admirable (which people in positions of leadership by default are to kids).


Absolutely agree. I'd sure hate to see the BSA try to redefine the meaning of "morally straight" as stated in the Scout Oath:

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck



GAY Leaders of several regional scouting councils have asked for the policy to be scrapped or modified, to no avail.


There...fixed it...


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http://www.freewebs.com/theborngayhoax/theapa.htm

The decision to remove homosexuality from the DSM in 1974 was largely the result of the APA's meeting being stormed by the homosexual activists .... It was much more a political decision vs a scientific evidence Call.

I can make no claim to knowledge that these is no genitic predisposition to homosexual behavior but having worked in 2 College counseling centers I can Guarantee you that there is a very political indroctrination long in place to promote the " It's cool to be gay and if you even remotely question that you are an intolarant fool who will be punished...." method of "social justice.....".

IMO there is much similarity between how the homosexuals build power and how Islam does...... Start out small and seeming benign then as the power base increases become much more domineering .

For the posters who wrote that 10% of the population in homosexual I challenge you to provide your source.... And much more importantly who FUNDED the
research.....

For the generally much respected posters who wrote that homosexuals are no more likely to exploit children than heterosexuals are, I ask the same question....

It sadens me to see the BSA consider this path.....


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....keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

I don't think they envisioned "straight" being translated as it applies to homosexuality but its pretty much intended that way in the broader picture.


However I don't believe a homosexual is any more likely to victimize a scout as a heterosexual would - unless they are Catholic priests or Penn St football coaches.


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Originally Posted by 2ndwind

For the generally much respected posters who wrote that homosexuals are no more likely to exploit children than heterosexuals are, I ask the same question....

It sadens me to see the BSA consider this path.....


Couple of points on that:

1. A study that claims that homosexuals ARE NOT more likely to molest kids:

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

2. A Study that claims the opposite

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/pro-gay-bias-in-study-of-pedophilia/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1331584/posts
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

That study claims 3% of the population as homosexual.

3. MRI study that shows brain differences in images viewed by homosexuals and pedophiles:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2186373/

4. Related research

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,002.htm

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Originally Posted by KFWA
....keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

I don't think they envisioned "straight" being translated as it applies to homosexuality but its pretty much intended that way in the broader picture.


However I don't believe a homosexual is any more likely to victimize a scout as a heterosexual would - unless they are Catholic priests or Penn St football coaches.


Therein lies the problem.

You might have felt a lot safer letting your son hang out with Jerry Sandusky because he was "married, had kids, a family man, etc," than letting them hang out with a homosexual person.

Which would have been wrong?

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Regardless of whether fears of homosexual pedophiles are warranted, who wants a homosexual in a leadership role with their boys? There are conflicting nonverbal queues and mannerisms kids pick up on. Most of them are liberal-progressives too who may push the propoganda when opportunity permits. Ideally, you want a masculine, confident and capable man with good morals setting the example for young boys - the kind of man you'd like your boy to become.

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Not directed at anyone in particular, but I think somebody is letting their 'studies' disengage there brain. Homos are hyper-promiscuous by comparison to straights and to the point of being an overriding factor in behavior, life-style etc. The BSA as I understand it promotes a wide variety of virtuous ideals many of which are likely at odds with the alternative lifestyles, of which there seem to be many forms.


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Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Regardless of whether fears of homosexual pedophiles are warranted, who wants a homosexual in a leadership role with their boys? There are conflicting nonverbal queues and mannerisms kids pick up on. Most of them are liberal-progressives too who may push the propoganda when opportunity permits. Ideally, you want a masculine, confident and capable man with good morals setting the example for young boys - the kind of man you'd like your boy to become.


I agree, however, when we are crafting arguments to use against the other side, we have to be aware of the validity of those arguments. I'm throwing this in here to show you that the old "but all gays are child molestors" argument can be disproved quite easily, so it's probably not the best argument to use in this case.

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Originally Posted by sse
Not directed at anyone in particular, but I think somebody is letting their 'studies' disengage there brain. Homos are hyper-promiscuous by comparison to straights and to the point of being an overriding factor in behavior, life-style etc. The BSA as I understand it promotes a wide variety of virtuous ideals many of which are likely at odds with the alternative lifestyles, of which there seem to be many forms.


Absolutely correct. I would therefore say if I were the BSA that our core values are different from those accepted by the homosexual community and as such we choose not to have homosexual scout leaders.

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Hard enough to find good role models for young men. Why would you want your son to have a homo as a role model. Definately not the same Boy Scouts i used to belong to.


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Originally Posted by burner
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....keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

I don't think they envisioned "straight" being translated as it applies to homosexuality but its pretty much intended that way in the broader picture.


However I don't believe a homosexual is any more likely to victimize a scout as a heterosexual would - unless they are Catholic priests or Penn St football coaches.


Therein lies the problem.

You might have felt a lot safer letting your son hang out with Jerry Sandusky because he was "married, had kids, a family man, etc," than letting them hang out with a homosexual person.

Which would have been wrong?


Jerry may have been married but I'm sorry you do a real poor job of painting him as a heterosexual.


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Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
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Originally Posted by KFWA
....keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

I don't think they envisioned "straight" being translated as it applies to homosexuality but its pretty much intended that way in the broader picture.


However I don't believe a homosexual is any more likely to victimize a scout as a heterosexual would - unless they are Catholic priests or Penn St football coaches.


Therein lies the problem.

You might have felt a lot safer letting your son hang out with Jerry Sandusky because he was "married, had kids, a family man, etc," than letting them hang out with a homosexual person.

Which would have been wrong?


Jerry may have been married but I'm sorry you do a real poor job of painting him as a heterosexual.


Nobody thought he wasn't until all this stuff blew up.

I'm not defending gays or pedophiles, here. Just pointing out that someone who most people would think of as a great role model for their kids was actually not, and was harmful on top of it.

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