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Thanks MH, been thinkin for awhile about using them, have some pillow ticking, wonder lube and 2 and 3 FG Swiss BP, the old .58 goes off with a top hat musket cap.

Anyone care to recommend a powder charge? 100 grains?


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Nice rifle Bea Congrats, you gonna bring it on the hog hunt next year?

I have a boat load of .570 round balls for my T/C 58 cal, have never shot them, would a 58 be ok on deer and pigs using a round ball? they are made by Hornady, the rifle came with 8 fifty count boxes.

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yes i will use it on the next hog hunt. The 58 would be great on a hog. Bigger is usually better with Black Powder rifles


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10-4 neighbor, I'm gonna be loadin' Black Powder on the hog hunt two. wink

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the 58 muzzle loader or the sharp breech loader?


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Load the Sharps with BP, and the 8-Bore too.

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either will do the job


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Thanks MH, been thinkin for awhile about using them, have some pillow ticking, wonder lube and 2 and 3 FG Swiss BP, the old .58 goes off with a top hat musket cap.

Anyone care to recommend a powder charge? 100 grains?


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100gr of Swiss will sure do the job. Try different loads to find the most accurate. Somewhere around 100gr should be a the sweet spot.

Keep in mind that Swiss has the power of T7. So, even 85-90gr will smack them with a .58 ball. I used a .54 PRB and 85gr of Swiss last year for a cow elk. Killed her just fine.


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Bea,

I will bypass the powder arguements, but I will say that Lyman .54 is a beautiful gun.


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thank . there should be no argument, just use whatever works for you


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Very nice looking rife bea175!

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Quote my posts where I was argumentative. confused


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Originally Posted by Mauser_Hunter
Originally Posted by gunner500
Thanks MH, been thinkin for awhile about using them, have some pillow ticking, wonder lube and 2 and 3 FG Swiss BP, the old .58 goes off with a top hat musket cap.

Anyone care to recommend a powder charge? 100 grains?


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100gr of Swiss will sure do the job. Try different loads to find the most accurate. Somewhere around 100gr should be a the sweet spot.

Keep in mind that Swiss has the power of T7. So, even 85-90gr will smack them with a .58 ball. I used a .54 PRB and 85gr of Swiss last year for a cow elk. Killed her just fine.



Thanks again MH, sounding very good.

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Originally Posted by prairie dog shooter
Quote my posts where I was argumentative. confused


I was replying to this post,


Bea,

I will bypass the powder arguements, but I will say that Lyman .54 is a beautiful gun.


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Yeah I like the GPR as well. smile

I stumbled across a fairly authentic custom Hawken replica, that was made in the 1970's. It is a .54 with a 34" Douglas barrel. I am looking forward to trying it soon. smile


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your rifle sounds like a winner, let us know how it shoots


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Originally Posted by bea175
I had the Lyman Peep on my other LGP but being LH it kind of got in my way cocking the hammer and i can shoot the open sights just as well so choose to go this route on this one. I have the Lyman Peep and may change later down the road. What powder are you using in your 50?

You might consider the TC Hunting Style Peep Sight. It might require you drill and tap one hole (I've seen reviews say no mod required, while others did for Lyman GPR and Deerstalkers), and maybe shim the peep or change the front sight. But it won't interfere with your lefty lock. I have one for my left-hand Deerstalker, but I haven't installed it yet.

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I have that sight on my old T/C 58 cal, it's a very good and precise aiming sight, and at dawn or dusk the aperture is easily removed, and I have noticed no difference in bullet impact when shooting it both ways on targets.

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I don't believe it will work on the GP without drilling and tapping another hole


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My deerstalker has three screws in the tang. The spacing measures up between the center screw and the lower tang screw for my TC peep sight. The hole spacing on the peep sight is 1-1/4". If I had to tap, the instructions with the TC sight says to use a #29 drill and 8-32 thread tap.

Looking on Lyman's website, they show a Lyman 57 SML and a 57 GPR sight. And they say that the GPR sight comes with an adaptor. See mounting instructions for the 57 GPR in the quote box below. I found the instructions on a thread on thehighroad at this link: Tang Sight for GPR - Thread from thehighroad.org, 3rd post

Just looking at your pics of the GPR and my Deerstalker, it looks as though the drop rate of your tang may be a little more. If so, that tapered adapter block described in the instructions probably compensates for it. I.E., perhaps a tapered shim would be required for the TC peep sight? Note in the instructions the centered tang hole present in GPR's manufactured after April 1997. My Deerstalker has a center hole and the spacing fits. I wonder if that adaptor block could be ordered directly from Lyman sans the 57 GPR sight?

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INSTALLATION OF 57GPR ON LYMAN GREAT PLAINS RIFLE

The Lyman Great Plains Rifle (made before April 1997) will require one hole to be
drilled and tapped for the enclosed 8/32 screw. Rifles made after April 1997 will
have the hole drilled and tapped at the factory.


1. Remove slide from sight base.
2. Unscrew and remove rear tang screw. The original rear tang will not be used.
3. Place enclosed sight adapter block on tang (still in stock) so that the thick end of
the adapter block
is at the rear of the tang and the angled front edge lines up with
the angled front edge of the sight base.
4. Place sight base on adapter block and attach it using the wood screw supplied
with the adapter block. The screw is positioned in the rear hole and will pass
through the sight base, adapter block and rifles tang, and then is screwed into the
stock.

5. *Mark center of front hole on the tang and drill with a No. 29 drill (removing the
tang and clamping it in the vise will protect the stock of the rifle during the drilling
operation).
6. *Tap hole for 8/32 thread.
7. Secure sight base and adapter block to the tang with wood screw and the 8/32 x
1/2" machine screw that is supplied with the adapter block.
8. Replace with slide.
Installation is complete


In the 4th post of that same thread, mykeal shows a GPR with a different tang sight. Pics linked below of that:

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