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can-am makes good stuff but im not sure rotax engines are the "best", most powerful yes....

i disagree on best locking axle, thats grizzly IMO

rear suspension....not sure there, guess it depends on how you measure


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Keep in mind that IRS will involve some maintenance issues which you won't have with SRA. The IRS, unlike the IFS, has a more dramatic angle which places more stress on the offset joint and related parts. We've got less than a year on ours, but the boots on both upper IRS joints have had to be replaced. 4000 miles was about the failure point for them. (This is on a 450 Grizzly.) Fortunately Yamaha has done a real nice job of engineering it so it is easy to work on. Boot replacement - the kit has all the stuff- takes about a half hour including cleaning out the old grease. I like IRS, but SRA is a more reliable system in terms of not have failure problems out in the boonies somewhere. (Although you can run plenty of distance with a cracked boot as long as you don't get into water or mud that deep.)


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Originally Posted by SAKO75
can-am makes good stuff but im not sure rotax engines are the "best", most powerful yes....

i disagree on best locking axle, thats grizzly IMO

rear suspension....not sure there, guess it depends on how you measure


http://youtu.be/g-hS6nOHedE
http://youtu.be/ZbQH995uMdY



I agree with your opinion on locking diffs (for my kind of use) but the 1st vid only proves that stock tires SUCK! & the 2nd shows what a good drive can do against a not so skilled driver.

The back to back pull off on pavement clearly shows that on pavement, weight wins, course anyone but a moron would already have known that.

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but the 1st vid only proves that stock tires SUCK! & the 2nd shows what a good drive can do against a not so skilled driver.

thus spending 4000$ more for a can-am over a honda doesnt automatically make it a more "capable" machine

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Originally Posted by senior
Originally Posted by SAKO75
can-am makes good stuff but im not sure rotax engines are the "best", most powerful yes....

i disagree on best locking axle, thats grizzly IMO

rear suspension....not sure there, guess it depends on how you measure


http://youtu.be/g-hS6nOHedE
http://youtu.be/ZbQH995uMdY



I agree with your opinion on locking diffs (for my kind of use) but the 1st vid only proves that stock tires SUCK! & the 2nd shows what a good drive can do against a not so skilled driver.

The back to back pull off on pavement clearly shows that on pavement, weight wins, course anyone but a moron would already have known that.



Yep,

Pavement there is not a better platform to put power to the ground and test the drivetrain. Moron.

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Originally Posted by SAKO75
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but the 1st vid only proves that stock tires SUCK! & the 2nd shows what a good drive can do against a not so skilled driver.

thus spending 4000$ more for a can-am over a honda doesnt automatically make it a more "capable" machine


When it's all said and done they're all good bikes these day some better than others.Except for those Chondas and the piece of chit bikes from Canadian tire.Also if can am made a bike with a back up recoil pull starter I'd own one.

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but the 1st vid only proves that stock tires SUCK! & the 2nd shows what a good drive can do against a not so skilled driver.

thus spending 4000$ more for a can-am over a honda doesnt automatically make it a more "capable" machine


When it's all said and done they're all good bikes these day some better than others.Except for those Chondas and the piece of chit bikes from Canadian tire.Also if can am made a bike with a back up recoil pull starter I'd own one.


Not having a recoil start is a minus.

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a big one.


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They don't have a recoil starter anymore? That is a minus.... My old one does.


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The only thing I can think of that might be a plus to the lack of a recoil start would be lower case integrity against water.


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In this country, you can drive one for a whole season and never see water deeper than 6".
I did some searching for the cracked frame thing and apparently they do have a problem although I don't know how serious it is. They redesigned it and still have the problem. From what I'm reading on the forums, though, I think the problems are with guys who pound the hell out of them and likely wouldn't happen with normal use.

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I've seen some guys ride. They really ought to be on a CR250! (riding wayyyyyyyy fast over serious rough stuff, much much faster than any other quad is even remotely capable of) You can break anything.

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I think the problems are with guys who pound the hell out of them

Not true, I'm 40+ years past my moto-cross days frown

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The cracked frame is what's keeping me from buying one. I'm over the fact that they cost a lot. I don't ride like a motoX guy, but it will get used and sometimes hard.

From what I've read, even everday riding has cracked some frames. I believe it's the design of it that is the problem. I've never heard of that from other manufactures.


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I believe it's the natural of a "spar" type frame.
How do you keep a single tube from the twist flexing type strains as each individual tire loads it from side to side!

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I see a lot of cracked and broken Honda frames in the local dump. I'm not sure why...I've rarely seen more than four adults on one or front and rear racks heavily loaded with logs. wink


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that is on the old 3-wheelers. Just think if they loaded them down like you can with a new 4-wheeler. grin


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Actually, it was on the newer 'sideways' engine Hondas. I had to change frames on my old 300 TRX a couple years ago. The saltwater exposure it has seen in the years since build - 98- had eaten the frame into near nothing (and I had used it to hauled god-awful loads of logs; then again, I don't get too crazy when I've got a big load on either.) But, though I didn't crack anything with heavy loads, the engine was all that was holding that rusty frame together. BTW, what's a 3-Wheeler...other than a very dim memory? grin (I honestly don't think I've seen one running, and maybe only 1 or 2 sitting dead and idle, in the last ten years.) Wish I had one of those old Big Reds though; they were the shizz back in the day.


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