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This may of been covered but what are the die costs for the Rogue? And is RCBS or Redding willing and ready to do them?
Thx
Dober Yeah, what he said. I have a pretty serious dislike for Hornady dies.
This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.
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I think that Redding will make dies for it;far as I know the first two sets of 7mm Mashburn Super dies they made were for my friend and myself,made with cases fired in our rifles, so they are willing to start a project from scratch.
Of course I think RCBS will do them as well, I bet.The form/trim,and FL dies for the Mashburn are standard catalog items with them.The Rogue is not too much different so shouldn't be a problem.
BTW there something wrong with Hornady dies? I have never owned them.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Redding will have the print and cases soon for a quote. They are more expensive than the hornady dies. The hornady dies will be $130 -$150 for the set. The reddings will probably be closer to $200 based on their initial quote.
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Bob, I don't know that there is anything wrong with Hornady dies, but I am just so used to using the Reddings and RCBS that adjusting to something different makes me grumble. Plus, the only die that I've ever stuck a case in is a Hornady. I know it's operator error, but I'm a bit superstitious about stuff like that.
I'd pay the extra $50-$70 for Redding.
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KDK: I understand... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob-I've had two sets of Horn dies (at least that I recall) and both were PIA's in one mammer or another. I will not buy another set...
Just my way and it sure don't have to be others ways.
Dober
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Dober it's all news to me...for some crazy reason I have never had any.....I must like green boxes or something... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Smart man...you have wisdom beyond your years.
Dober
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Redding FL dies don't have a air bleed hole like RCBS dies do!
I got out the 264 Win. Mag. box of dies and brass to get that rifle going. I found the decapping pin gone from the RCBS box and a note saying to find it in the 7mm WSM box.
There was a Redding box right there for the 264 ready to use. I put the Redding FL die in the press instead and the first case got a big dent in its shoulder.
No air bleed hole!
I found the decap pin for the RCBS dies and put them to work.
No dents.
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Was looking at this "wildcat" with interest like others and saw some similarities to the 7mm "Practical" designed by a gentleman in NZ ~2010 with 300WM length, 30 Degree shoulder, and slightly longer neck than 7mmRM. I believe there is still factory taper to case walls however. He demonstrates some pretty impressive performance on his website... ballisticstudies.com . All good stuff!!! I believe he still uses factory 7mmRM dies to "neck size" the cartridge.
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The 7mm Practical uses the same reference point as a 300WM for firing forming. This gives is basically the same neck length as the 300WM. He was hoping for the neck to grow out longer, but after 5-6 firings it hadn't grown much and the case was done. It does have more capacity than the 7 Rogue by 3 grains if I remember correctly. I have a reamer for it as well that I tested. It did give great performance, but was a little more finicky at times. We shared alot of info back and forth on results. For sizing, a universal Hornady neck sizer is what was used. It was a great design, and I would have stuck with it, but I wanted to test a theory I had on the recent generation of accuracy cartridges combined with our throat design. Playing with these things is fun. Already working on a new 6mm to fill a special niche that I need.
On the dies, I to prefer Redding most of the time. The Hornady dies work, but Redding seems to have a little higher quality control and I can get their comp seater die, which is among the best out there. Long term, that is probably the direction I go.
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Glad I got my build order in last winter. Hope the redding die quote comes in .
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Trueblue for what cartridge?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Trueblue is going to be one of my test pilots for the 7 Rogue. He has been a great friend and customer for years, so he is going to help test it out this fall during hunting season.
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nice job. let us know how it works out
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Trueblue is going to be one of my test pilots for the 7 Rogue. He has been a great friend and customer for years, so he is going to help test it out this fall during hunting season. I bet it works!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Working out very well so far. Shot a 4.8" 3 shot group at 1027yds over the weekend with the forming loads from a bipod. Making first round hits all the way out was pretty consistent. Looking like I am really going to like this one! Accurate and forgiving...just what I was looking for.
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Sounds like sub 1/2 moa  Great shooting. Enjoy your new Seven
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That sounds like a very cool cartridge. I love the 7mm's..
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