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Bob,
I was hunting last fall in the local mountains and heard a shot. Man, it was LOUD, so I said to myself: John, that must be a .270 Winchester!
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Bob,
I was hunting last fall in the local mountains and heard a shot. Man, it was LOUD, so I said to myself: John, that must be a .270 Winchester! Was the man singing magic pixxy fairy dust songs? Lol Shod
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700 Yards ????? Are you in a wheelchair ? Larry GFY. Don't you get it? nobody wants your ass here.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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For real world hunting (200 yards or less where most stuff is killed across the USA) there is no practical difference between these two or a 257 Bob, 300 Savage, 260 Rem, 308, 280, 30-06 and so on. Knowing how to get close is far more important than long range drop tables. Took my best gun Elk <20 yards and my last gun Lope <30 yards. Hunt for 5 decades with a bow .... then rifles are easy. Larry GFY. Don't you get it? nobody wants your ass here. Moderators, TWO simultaneous login names...
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Just started to work with the 6.5 again after years of not owning one. I keep getting surprised with how well this round doe's. With modern components and pressures it is almost in the same league as the .256 Newton.
When loaded close to the same pressures as the .270 the differences start to melt away to almost nothing.
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This WAS my second attempt to drop this thread and after my next answer I will be OUT!
Jerry REALLY!!! I THINK SOMEONE MIGHT BE FULL OF SCHIT Lol If I sprinkle magic pixxy fairy dust on it will it make it come true? Shod
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Just to clarify for you, you and your pals
weren't the inventors of shooting flat and to MPBR of 400 yds in the 80s. It's been being done with the 270 since 1923
Shod
---------------********------------- Posted by Shod, P 20, Tues. - 12:23 PM "I'd use the 270 for a 300 yd MPBR rifle but in no way do I agree with the "spin" or hype that the 270 is a 400 yd MPBR rifle with a 130 gr bullet. JMO " Jerry Well with posts like those..... I changed my mind! Jerry
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Just to clarify for you, you and your pals
weren't the inventors of shooting flat and to MPBR of 400 yds in the 80s. It's been being done with the 270 since 1923
Shod
---------------********------------- Posted by Shod, P 20, Tues. - 12:23 PM "I'd use the 270 for a 300 yd MPBR rifle but in no way do I agree with the "spin" or hype that the 270 is a 400 yd MPBR rifle with a 130 gr bullet. JMO " hmmmmmmm, a conundrum ?; more like contradiction. Shod which is it? Jerry You don't recognize sarcasm when you see it? A little slow on the uptake? Sprinkle some magic pixxy fairy dust on it. Shod
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Jeebus, this is like an argument in Special Ed class.
And a damned stupid argument, at that.
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Jeebus, this is like an argument in Special Ed class.
And a damned stupid argument, at that.  You think they waiting for the "short bus"...? The .270 is usually good for a couple bags of popcorn... DF
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Jeebus, this is like an argument in Special Ed class.
And a damned stupid argument, at that. Yeah this place is famous for stupid stuff about 270's... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Jeebus, this is like an argument in Special Ed class.
And a damned stupid argument, at that. Yeah this place is famous for stupid stuff about 270's... All it is does is work
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Gawd, can anyone else feel their IQ points dropping as we all participate in this thread?!  A .525bc 150g SST at 3000fps carries the mail a loooong way out. Can't see a 140g VLD out of a 6.5 Swede with a similar length bbl staying with it. Sorry, shooting game at 750y doesn't interest me. Hi Bob17, 3000 fps with a 150 grainer is .270 WSM book vel. What are you using for powder, and what is your barrel length? What kind of groups do you get at that vel. and how do the SST perform on animals larger than N. Amer. deer? Just checked my .277 bullet stash but see no 150 gr. SST's.. That may change depending on your experience using them on animals larger than deer.. TIA
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I get 3000 fps with RL-26 and a 150 gr Nosler Partition from my .270 Winchester. Barrel length is 22".
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Gawd, can anyone else feel their IQ points dropping as we all participate in this thread?! A .525bc 150g SST at 3000fps carries the mail a loooong way out. Can't see a 140g VLD out of a 6.5 Swede with a similar length bbl staying with it. Sorry, shooting game at 750y doesn't interest me. Hi Bob17, 3000 fps with a 150 grainer is .270 WSM book vel. What are you using for powder, and what is your barrel length? What kind of groups do you get at that vel. and how do the SST perform on animals larger than N. Amer. deer? Just checked my .277 bullet stash but see no 150 gr. SST's.. That may change depending on your experience using them on animals larger than deer.. TIA Gday N, In the 24" bbl a compressed H4831sc charge got me good accuracy at 2990fps. R22 got me more. I like using the local stuff most of the time though. Wild cattle and horses hate the 150 SST, though I prefer the 160g NPT where they're the intended game. 2840fps there with 4831. The 130 SST is a different beast. I don't use them any more.
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I get 3000 fps with RL-26 and a 150 gr Nosler Partition from my .270 Winchester. Barrel length is 22". That's "smokin" out of a 22" barrel and using NPT to boot! I have heard good things about RL-26 from a local fella that uses it in other calibers.. But the bugger is sold out now and RL powders are hard to come by where I live.. How is your accuracy at that vel. using the NPT?
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IIRC it's getting an inch or so at 100 yds.
Also use it in my .300 Wby and .25/06.
In the .300 Wby using a 180 gr NP. I'm getting 3200 fps and about .75" group at 100 yds. That's from a 26" barrel.
In the .25/06 with a 100 gr NBT. I'm getting 3340 fps and just under a inch groups at 100 yds. That's from a 24" barrel.
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Here is the info for the RL-26 150 gr Nosler Partition .270 Winchester load data. My load is one grain under Alliance maximum load. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...ight=150&shellid=63&bulletid=367
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I thought everyone knew the magic of the 6.5x55. I've killed thousands of animals with one and none of them moved out of their tracks. I have burned out four 270 barrels vs one 6.5x55 barrel. Does one have to burn out a barrel before they can comment on a subject?
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Gday N,
In the 24" bbl a compressed H4831sc charge got me good accuracy at 2990fps.
R22 got me more. I like using the local stuff most of the time though.
Wild cattle and horses hate the 150 SST, though I prefer the 160g NPT where they're the intended game. 2840fps there with 4831.
The 130 SST is a different beast. I don't use them any more.
Thanks, Bob17, I have 8 lbs. + of H4831sc so I'll try that first.. Have more 150 gr. bullets Hornady, Nosler and Speer than any other weight and they shot best in my Rem. Ti anyway so will stay them..
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