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While looking into a cheap and reliable 458 lott set up, i found several people talking about rechambering the new model 70 in 458 win to 458 lott. The way it read it sounded like an easy job for any gunsmith to perform. My question is however, as the 458 win is quite a bit shorter will the lott have any issues feeding properly when in a hurry to get follow up shots off quickly? Also could anyone perhaps tell me the average cost to have this done?

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The .458 Win was built around a standard length action, the .458 Lott need a magnum length action. I would think you'd need a mag length box, maybe a magnum bolt stop and ejector. Not sure of the details, as I've never done one.

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The newer Model 70's are a true Magnum length action. And the Lott is not a bunch longer than the Win. Easy conversion, but better still would be to bump it out to .458 Ackley. Then the Ackley full length uber powerfull ammo, 458Lott or 458Win ammo could be used interchangeably.

For Africa, just have the barrel stamped 458 Magnum. the ariport police don't know the difference.

A simple re chamber job for any of the above is all it takes, maybe with moving/modifying the bolt stop just a hair.

Go for it!

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I paid $75.00 to have my .458 rechambered to .458Lott.


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Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

I paid $75.00 to have my .458 rechambered to .458Lott.


Was there anything more required than rechambering to ensure foolproof feeding/extraction?


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Baberuth43, forgot something very improtant....


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Originally Posted by Spanokopitas

I paid $75.00 to have my .458 rechambered to .458Lott.
$75 is not bad at all. You did this on a new model 70? if so how does everything work?

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Mark,

How about feeding from the mag. Are there any issues with the longer round?

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I cannot see as how there would be since the rounds are so VERY similar. Merely lengthening the OAL of the cartridge 1/8 to 1/4 inch is not going to wreak havoc upon the feeding geometry.

Heck, I even had a relatively short VZ24 MAuser that fed and fired 458LOTT ammo like a champ. With its fiberglass stock and 20 inch bbl it was a recoil KILLER so it stayed in Africa but it worked.


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Originally Posted by safariman
I cannot see as how there would be since the rounds are so VERY similar. Merely lengthening the OAL of the cartridge 1/8 to 1/4 inch is not going to wreak havoc upon the feeding geometry.

Heck, I even had a relatively short VZ24 MAuser that fed and fired 458LOTT ammo like a champ. With its fiberglass stock and 20 inch bbl it was a recoil KILLER so it stayed in Africa but it worked.


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BR43, with todays bullets and powders it makes little sense to me to have the added expense of converting a 458WM to a Lott.

I easily run 500 gr bullets to an even 2200 fps in an old tang safety Ruger in 458, havent been to Africa yet, but have shot some BIG cattle with it over the years.

The 500 gr Swift A Frame and 550 gr Woodleigh softs are absolutely devastating on cattle i've hit from 15 to 150 yards.

Either of those bullets first, then a mag full of 500 gr Woodleigh solids and you are way past good to go on any animal that walks.

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Gunner,

Back when I was in the cattle business, we penned our cows with horses... laugh

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Gunner,

Back when I was in the cattle business, we penned our cows with horses... laugh

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LOL DF, Well I dont live out West or Alaska and havent had the time for Africa, I figured a LOOONG time ago a sick, dying, or dead head of cattle would/do make excellent bullet testing media.

I've shot 'em from 150 lbs all the way to over 2200 lbs and at every range or angle a man can think of.

With a tractor and loader, chain, saw, ax, and a big knife, you can get all the bullet testing you could ever wonder about. LOL

Matter of fact, Sharpsguy [BB] down in Texas wants me to call him next time I have to put one down and were gonna cut loose on it with our Sharps Rifles. laugh

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I still want to go on one of those Wild Cattle hunts in the Texas riverbed country that Murray Burnham wrote about many years ago. I need to keep my 416 Rigby limbered up and ready.


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That sounds like a helluva lot of fun Mark, specially off Horse or Mule back, and how bout a big Water Buffalo hunt in Australia?

That ones on my bucket list too. laugh

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I'll have to get my .404J project finished... cool

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Originally Posted by gunner500
That sounds like a helluva lot of fun Mark, specially off Horse or Mule back, and how bout a big Water Buffalo hunt in Australia?

That ones on my bucket list too. laugh

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Airfare is off of my budget list these days. Water or Cape Buff out of reach BUT, if I can DRIVE somewhere to hunt something that really needs 416 Rigby horsepower.....

Thats the trouble with this danged country, not enough really big game to hunt for! smile

I remember Murray Burnham ending his story on the Texas wild cattle hunting with something like "Leave your pet 243 at home, it probably won't even make him look up at you or flinch"


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Originally Posted by safariman
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That sounds like a helluva lot of fun Mark, specially off Horse or Mule back, and how bout a big Water Buffalo hunt in Australia?

That ones on my bucket list too. laugh

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Airfare is off of my budget list these days. Water or Cape Buff out of reach BUT, if I can DRIVE somewhere to hunt something that really needs 416 Rigby horsepower.....

Thats the trouble with this danged country, not enough really big game to hunt for! smile

I remember Murray Burnham ending his story on the Texas wild cattle hunting with something like "Leave your pet 243 at home, it probably won't even make him look up at you or flinch"


Guess Murray thought just the suggestion of a .243 would be somthing like taking a knife to a gun fight...! laugh

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I have a Win M70 .458WM

With 450gr. North Fork Flat point Solids and 72gr. of AA2230 it'll hammer anything and everything I may ever hunt with less felt recoil than my AHR Lott.

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