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OK so I have 2 pretty good loads with these pills. Accuracy is there. However, ES isn't. A little more than I would like to see. I'm jumping these things a mile (.050) as recommended. The target below represents this a.m.'s trigger yanking. You can See the CCB shot then I adjusted the scope. I shot the top group of 1 charge weight. @ 2900 fps. Then the second group different charge weight and in my routine I tripped the second shot early.. (obvious) @ 2930 fps. Then the third group of another charge weight and I dropped the 3rd shot just low about .3 of an inch ( not in pic but inline with the group. @ 2950 fps. So what I am asking is those of your who shoot these pills and have found accuracy do you also find the the ES isn't very low?
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Haven't had my morning diet dew and oj yet so forgive me but "CCB"...?
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That was my thought as well
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I wonder if seeing a big ES could be due to the relief bands cut in the bullet?
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Stick with load number one. Seems like you are yanking the trigger more consistently on that one. If my rifle shoots like that all the time, I can live with a little ES. Tell us what your unacceptable ES is.
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My RE17 load in the 300 WSM (66.5gr) has an SD of ~10 fps. It's a solid 3/4 MOA load and 1/2 MOA is very common. I'd say keep increasing the powder charge slightly. My .260 had unacceptable SDs with H4350 until I got closer and closer to max.
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I worry more about SD than ES. The ES figures only become important at long range anyway.
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What are you shooting? I'd shoot 2900 fps load again and if it produces the same as the first I might be good. Then I'd go back and shoot 1shot from a cold bore. If it lands within the same group...I would most certainly be calling it a day!
What are the ES numbers you are questioning for load 1?
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Them lil' copper TTSX bastids will drive a guy to drink. Fair warning.
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I'd 86 the TTSX PDQ if CCB and ES/SD are AWOL.......
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I don't worry about the cold clean bore shot as much as I'd worry about the cold bore shot. I want the ability to poke to 500 so thats my issue with the ES.
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Has anyone had success with getting closer and kissing the lands?
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Stick with load number one. Seems like you are yanking the trigger more consistently on that one. If my rifle shoots like that all the time, I can live with a little ES. Tell us what your unacceptable ES is. I'd tend to agree but the bottom target and dropping the last shot was purely me. I had a hair lower es with the third load.
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I worry more about SD than ES. The ES figures only become important at long range anyway. Yep, but I want the ability to poke at 500 if need be.
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What are you shooting? I'd shoot 2900 fps load again and if it produces the same as the first I might be good. Then I'd go back and shoot 1shot from a cold bore. If it lands within the same group...I would most certainly be calling it a day!
What are the ES numbers you are questioning for load 1? I was thinking same. ES on the top group is 23 ES on the bottom group is 18
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I'd 86 the TTSX PDQ if CCB and ES/SD are AWOL....... FWIW YMMV IMHO. Screw ES, it won't matter inside the yardage you'll be banging away at.
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What are you shooting? I'd shoot 2900 fps load again and if it produces the same as the first I might be good. Then I'd go back and shoot 1shot from a cold bore. If it lands within the same group...I would most certainly be calling it a day!
What are the ES numbers you are questioning for load 1? I was thinking same. ES on the top group is 23 ES on the bottom group is 18 Am I missing something? I can live with those numbers all day!,
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