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I have been gettin a hankerin to play with a sidelock muzzleloader again and found one of these in 50 cal. factory new on gunbroker, the bid now stands at $350.00 but I'm not sure what something like this might be worth, it's a beautiful rifle but is it worth bidding on?.................Thanks Hb
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I've seen them for less, but they were beat up. I've seen them for more, but they don't sell.
I think $350 is a price for a nice one that will sell.
If it's worth that to you. It's a good deal.
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Yeah, it will go up in auction bids most likely. New-unfired, probably a $450-600+ dollar sale, if the usual bidders are on-line. It's a collector piece now, that could be shot, and the resulting loss in value when you do. Used ones this year have been running $400 plus if used and clean, been watching for a clean used one for several months. For the money, you are buying stainless fittings, extra fancy walnut stock, and a standard barrel with extra labeling that won't shoot any better than a base Hawkin model. If you are really going to hunt/shoot it, recommend picking up a standard T/C Hawkin for $200 and change, they are in the block regularly. Or wait for a clean used Cougar, battle the bid with me , and post a picture of the game gotten this Fall! Good luck!
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AH64guy, Thanks for the reply, you obviously know this rifle very well, I did email the guy about this one and although he said the condidtion is factory new he said the rifle had been fired a time or two, I think I will take your advice and look for a nice used Renegade in the $200.00 range............The Cougar is a most beautiful rifle though, it might be more what you are looking for.................Thanks Hb
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Mauser hit it right too, I've looked at some that had chunks gouged out of the stock, and a collector price tag. It's a cool rifle, but not much more than really nice wood. The nice ones seem to auction/sell quick, and for premium prices. I'd be happy with just a stock if it came along.
There have been several very good deals on here in the classified for T/Cs and Lymans.
I picked up my T/C Hawkin for about $200 on GB, it's used, but not much.
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Finding a nice Hawken for $200 may be a little tough.
Have you shot one? They slap the cheek pretty good. The Renegade is more friendly. To me anyway, and others say the same thing.
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Yes, had one on and off since 1986 when I built my first kit, and used patched balls and conicals over Pyrodex for chasing game.
Just like the traditional look a bit more than the Renegade, both get the job done.
Watch the GB ads, they can be had, just have to do a little searching...Hawkin vs Hawken, etc.
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I used a Renegade with a GM last year to take an elk with a PRB. Lots of fun.
My crummy eyesight won't let me use open sights anymore, and I refuse to put a scope on a sidelock. So, I went to an inline.
Still love traditional a lot more.
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Many years ago I enjoyed hunting with a Thompson Renegade .50 cal, as I remember that rifle would shoot nice three shot 1.5" clovers at 50 yds with open sights, though My eyes aren't what they used to be I think I can still do OK with open sights. I'm looking forward to giving it a try anyway..............Hb
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Our local shop in town has three lightly used TC Hawkins for sale in 50 caliber. Prices are negotiable; they're having the annual sale right now.
Mussers Outdoors Ephrata, PA 717 738 4800
Good luck to you! Sherwood
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Thanks, I really want a Renegade but I might give them a call............................Hb
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