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Originally Posted by cmg
Good read. Dr. Skiba makes his points very effectively.


Yeah, especially this one..."Simply put, the Armstrong case may be symbolic of a decline in our popular morality..."

So the decline of morality in our time is exemplified by the Lance Armstrong case? With all of the other horribly bad schit that has gone on and is still going on in our time, our decline in morality is represented by "the Armstrong case"? A guy who rides his bicycle fast and is accused of cheating?

Yeah...makes perfect sense.


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Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
I've never read that Armstrong was EVER tested and found to be on drugs. Ever.

Anybody know if he was EVER tested and found to be drugs? Anybody? Ever? I mean, I really want to know cause all I have heard is a bunch of unproven accusations against him. Sounds more like sour grapes than anything else.


NEVER.


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That there are more dire wrongs in the world does not change the evidence off a sound chain of reasoning in the article above.

Question:

Whats better for mule deer - 7-08 or .308?

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.300 Win Mag will take elk out yonder every day of the week and twice on sundays.

The campfire way of debate?


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The point I mentioned, in particular, wasn't a very good example of "evidence of a sound chain of reasoning."


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What is it about the fact he was never tested positive that you fail to be able to comprehend?


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Cheaters eventually get caught....this cheater was able to cheat a little bit longer. There's a reason Armstrong paid his doctor very well (as did Michael Jackson), and there's a reason (conflict of interest?) he gave the UCI lots of money.

Not only is he a doper, a cheater, but also a quitter. He quit his defense fight, as he knew his dirty little game was over. Eyewitness evidence is hard to beat, especially testimony of 10 people among other USADA evidence.

Why does this cheater get any sympathy? Is it because some love a bad-azz hero?

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For the time period that Armstrong was winning and my aligned belief that he was clean, I thought that Armstrong was the best athelete in the world by any measure. Exposure of my naivete was disappointing.

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