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By the grace of God I was born an American. I will for good or ill be an American to the bitter end.

To do otherwise is unthinkable to me.


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�If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.� Ronald Reagan.

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And you are in mine.


The first time I shot myself in the head...

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lordy but you represent your country well sir.

I know everyone here appreciates your presence at this lil cyber campfire.


I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Originally Posted by Winnie1300
Wyoming or Colorado

laugh


Get back in your room and keep studying. grin


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This is MY country.


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South Africa or Alabama are my choices.


Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!

They're all around the CampFire and everywhere.
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Originally Posted by blackdogsrule
Well said and spot on. I and others would love to find the un****** America but it doesn't really exist. I love VA but it has been overrun with liberals. Visited Austin last month fo a football game and loved it. Maybe ther is room there more disenfranchised conservatives?


Had to fly out of Austin today, bunch of weird fkr's every direction I looked, not a few, the majority.


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Originally Posted by blackdogsrule
Most of here are pissed and disgusted with the current direction our country is headed. I am 56 and have saved enough to bail and move but where would you go? The current state of the US makes me sick but seriously-where could you go that would be better? New Zealand, Costa Rica, Belize? Where? This is a serious question. I can't take this **** any more. I am going to have a melt down if I have to deal with Obamacare, same sex marriage, legalized marijuana, welfare queens, etc.


Why would you give two [bleep] about same sex marriage, and legal ganja? Doesn't sound like you want a free country! How must you deal with it anyway, is it all on you?

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Originally Posted by jnyork
I intend to stay and fight.


me too


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Originally Posted by RDW
Originally Posted by blackdogsrule
Well said and spot on. I and others would love to find the un****** America but it doesn't really exist. I love VA but it has been overrun with liberals. Visited Austin last month fo a football game and loved it. Maybe ther is room there more disenfranchised conservatives?


Had to fly out of Austin today, bunch of weird fkr's every direction I looked, not a few, the majority.

Austin was full of weird f****kers for sure but I have been to Odessa, Ft.Stockton, Brownsville area(hunting) and seemed pretty decent areas. NoVA is overun with liberals with and inmmigrants now.


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Originally Posted by blackdogsrule
Well said and spot on. I and others would love to find the un****** America but it doesn't really exist. I love VA but it has been overrun with liberals. Visited Austin last month fo a football game and loved it. Maybe ther is room there more disenfranchised conservatives?


Hell, I'm looking to move to VA 'cause MD is the most socialist state in the disUnion.


Maryland - Where the criminals are the government.
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Originally Posted by Furprick
Originally Posted by blackdogsrule
Most of here are pissed and disgusted with the current direction our country is headed. I am 56 and have saved enough to bail and move but where would you go? The current state of the US makes me sick but seriously-where could you go that would be better? New Zealand, Costa Rica, Belize? Where? This is a serious question. I can't take this **** any more. I am going to have a melt down if I have to deal with Obamacare, same sex marriage, legalized marijuana, welfare queens, etc.


Why would you give two [bleep] about same sex marriage, and legal ganja? Doesn'tsound like you want a free country! How must you deal with it anyway, is it all on you?


Because they are symptomatic of moral decay I care. 'nuff said.


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Running ain't the American way. Hit these bastids in the pocket book. Just be prepared.

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I'm not going anywhere either.


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I've been debating early retirement in the Carribean, but am not quite financially in a position to pull it off. Hence I'm going to hunker down for the long haul.

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I have lived, yes lived, in the Middle East, Far East, Canada and here in Kazakhstan and I will take home, the US, every time. I work with loads of European's and they prefer the Middle East, Far East, Canada and Kazakhstan over their home country it seems.


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I moved to Wyoming 26 years ago,because of the crime,high numbers of people,little public land, and general BS where I was living. Aint planning on leaving!!! It aint perfect, Teton County carried Obama. But, there is a plus about have'n a few liberals around, when TSHTF my dogs will have something to eat!!!! memtb


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Originally Posted by FOsteology
Seriously?? crazy


How many have honestly "lived" outside the US - and I don't mean an extended vacation or a short-term work assignment?

You have 3 choices:

1) Another 1st world country - really, truly first world. And there's only a few. UK, France, Germany, Japan, Belgium, parts of Spain, Canada, and a few others.

The electricity runs 24/7, you have shops and restaurants open at night and with a good choice, you have safe areas - you have "things" that you take for granted.

But these countries taxation, socially liberal, and socialistic tendencies are worse than what you think you would be running from.

2) 2nd world country - South Africa, some Caribbean locations, perhaps Thailand, etc. The electricity goes off - often. In many places you have to drink bottled water. The stores sometimes have and sometimes don't have things you need/want. Simple things - bleach, detergents, washing machines ... don't exactly get you the results you are used to.

3) 3rd world - Caribbean nations, Latin America countries, etc. Argue all you want, but they are 3rd world **** holes when you get off the Club Med compound. Electricity is a crap shoot. Have heart burn at 11pm? Have fun .... Get a pain in your right side .... pray it isn't appendicitis.

Of course, you can go to an "ex-pat" retiree compound and live the life of luxury. But it isn't.

Not after you settle in. Your "new" house has a problem with electricity burning out bulbs ... live with it. The "public" water pressure goes down during the heavy season ..... get used to bailing pool water with a bucket to replenish your toilet bowl so you can flush your turd down ....

Those nice people in the local town who you think are your friends?? Wait until one day a local throws themselves in front of your car outside a shop, and you slam on your brakes and barely bump them. Then the local police come ..... they don't have courts, police, lawyers, and the system you are used to .... you will reach into your pocket and pull out some green to pay them off, and you will have that on you because you will have witnessed another ex-pat get hauled off to the local jail and kept their 2 days until his wife brought the cash in!


People have no ****ing comprehension what it is like living outside the US, and the value of the freedoms, protections, rights, and services we have.

You go to another country to live, in essence you are there as an invited, tolerated guests that last as long as they wish, and to what extent their tolerance goes ... depending on who you may piss off, who is related to whom, and how much you are willing to bow your head in submission ....


excellent post FOsteology!

Bitches don't have a clue how easy they got it. They'd rather whine 'cause things aren't exactly they way they think they should be. They need to get 'out' more. As to the OP...don't let the door hit you on the way out.


It ain't what you don't know that makes you an idiot...it's what you know for certain, that just ain't so...

Most people don't want to believe the truth~they want the truth to be what they believe.

Stupidity has no average...
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Originally Posted by Calvin
My wife is Canandian, and here on a visa. If this immigration process gets any more retarded, we are pulling up and moving to British Columbia.. She's been warned..(grin)
You'd be more than welcome here Calvin,as would a lot of the Campfire members.As long as you didn't move to Vancouver you'd be fine,most of the Interior is Conservative,like most here.I'll not expect to see any of the folks I've met on the Campfire up here,much as I'd like to.I expect that being the kind of people they are they will stay and fight on.That is the kind of people that I think they are,and I would do the same.That is the spirit that started the USA,and is the only thing that will keep it alive.Cheers....Monashee

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