Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire All this Wailing about the Election is Stupid!!

In this world, there are pessimists, optimists, and realists. I'm a factual realist. The fact is, this country as we knew is it over. We will not win another presidential election. Live, or die with it.

1. We have a lying, vindictive, socialist POS as President who is a devout fan of communism & a closet Muslim. He has done more damage to our once great Country in the last 4 years than all previous Presidents combined ! He has single handedly led our National debt into to the brink of no return. He has created an economic depression that will soon make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a friggin cake walk.

2. ...half of our population whether it be Mexican, Black, or White, are a bunch of frickin moral retards!
Most People no longer have Values, Morals, or Integrity! Thats what's wrong with our Nation, today! Plain & Simple!
Too damn many souless bleeding heart liberal idiots, totally devoid of any Character or Morals! A bunch of blind sheep being led to the slaughter by the Antichrist !

Look. We got just about half the votes for president. Actually, nothing has changed. Obama is still president--with fewer votes than in 2008. The House is still solid Republican. The Republicans screwed up the Senate only because of the incredible ineptitude of their Senatorial Campaign Committee.

Stop blaming everything on the Mexicans. Most Mexican American citizens are socially conservative, have religious and family values, and are reasonably capitalistic. They are OUR kind of people. So stop bashing them. I don't mean the illegals who don't vote anyway. Actually, their numbers have declined because the economy has caused some of them to return to Mexico. The Republicans should convert the Mexicans.

Is that so hard to think about? I remember the solid (Democratic) South!!

Same with the blacks. Yes, there are a lot of black welfare bums. But how many are decent people like us? 30%, 50%, 90%? Whatever the number, it's enough to have turned the election toward Romney. (Besides, are 90% of whites decent people?)

And stop the gay-bashing. Do you know any gays? I do. Most of them are pretty nice people. Who cares if a state recognizes a gay civil union as marriage? Hell, marriage within a religion, which is different, still requires both sexes. And heterosexual marriage itself is getting pretty tattered with all the divorces now.

We've got a lot in common with most of the people in all these groups.

Now as for us "righteous" upstanding white American middle class people, did you know that 3,000,000 fewer REGISTERED REPUBLICANS voted for Romney than had voted for McCain? That would have been enough to turn the race.

Rich white guys? Did you know that a poll at the Harvard Business School, the "West Point of Capitalism" that turns out all these Wall Street types including Mitt Romney, was 65% for Obama!!! 65%!!

The Republicans need to go there and ask them why. That should be their first stop. Then they can ask the Mexicans. Hell, their own Mexican politicians can ask the other Mexicans.

You ain't a gonna get votes by calling the voters "beaners."

Did the Republicans turn the "solid South" around by calling people "redneck hillbillies?"

And abortion? I'm sorry. I don't like it any more than the rest of you but any damned idiot who brays about pregnancy from rape being a gift from God, or claims that a woman can prevent pregnancy from rape by willing it so, had no business being in my political party, let alone the US Senate.

So let's stop wailing and get to work. Dammit, we're almost there.

Note: I am not suggesting we change our principles but that we reach out to the people who, increasingly, will determine the outcomes and show them why they are better off voting conservative.

And Romney ran a damned poor campaign. Let's face it. G.W. Bush was a pretty incompetent president (I voted for him too) but Romney never told the voters how he would differ.

And this talk of relocating to another country is just foolish drivel. Let's get to work.

Now that you guys are mostly irate at me, I gotta tell you: I agree with most of you, even chlinstructor.

But the point is, what are we gonna do about it?

We just nominated arguably the best candidate since Reagan and lost. But he didn't lose by much, even though he ran a milque-toast campaign. How come he didn't know (after funning in 2008) that nowadays you've gotta release your tax returns?

The Romney ground campaign here in Cuyahoga County, Ohio (Cleveland), was about the most inept thing I've seen. I know. I participated. In the last week, some of "our" guys, like Dick Morris and the head of the Tea Party, were explaining how it would be a Romney landslide. Shows how ridiculously out of touch they were. They even said Pennsylvania was tipping to Romney. I know. I sent money to help tip it.

So you don't like what I say? Well, I don't like a lot of it either. But, chlinstructor and everyone else, what is YOUR solution. You can't just get to be a smaller minority every year.

And nobody suggests we out-giveaway the Libs. We tell some of their voters why it's in their interest to adapt some of our ideas.

And what's all this about losing hope? We're in a lot better shape--and I mean a LOT better--than after 2008. If this worthless bum screws up the economy as badly during the next four years as in the last four, and we take just a few lessons from 2012, we'll have him.

And he won't be able to blame everything on Bush.

What part of "illegal" don't you understand Indy?

I understand that breaking immigration laws is illegal. But you don't enforce them by denouncing someone's aunt and uncle. After all, they don't want to live under a government run by Mexicans, just like we don't. You enforce the laws by fining employers for breaking them.