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#7061462 - 11/10/12 05:21 AM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: jimmyp]
1B Offline
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Registered: 05/21/01
Posts: 4641
Loc: Reston, VA, USA
And one scope type might satsfy your needs but it will not fit all occasions.

Duplexes are Ok for average use but give way to special reticles in dim light. German 4as are much more useful then and, hell, they even had posts and crosshairs in the bad old days. Illuminatred reticles -- Trijicon and others -- also have their place.

The scope makers who ignore the demand for fixed power and low light glass just concede that market to the few who have offerings --however imperfect.

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#7061875 - 11/10/12 08:02 AM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: 1B]
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I own but two scopes, an old refurbished Weaver K2.5 and Lyman Alaskan 2X. They both live in G&H QD side mounts and are rotated around a few Mauser sporters. For the most part they stay in their leather carrying tubes when afield as I deem them backups to the receiver sights. If one learns how to maximize the efficiency of their equipment there is no need to abandon the 'old' methods, and also no need to follow the herd of 'high tech is better tech' ill informed scope purchasers. For my sighting purposes I follow the 'KISS' principle (Keep It Simple, Stupid).
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#7062702 - 11/10/12 01:51 PM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: gnoahhh]
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You're scopes are horrible compared to modern scopes. I've tried both of them.
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#7063277 - 11/10/12 04:47 PM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: gnoahhh]
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Registered: 09/09/12
Posts: 842
Loc: Lake Havasu, AZ
Originally Posted By: gnoahhh
I own but two scopes, an old refurbished Weaver K2.5 and Lyman Alaskan 2X. They both live in G&H QD side mounts and are rotated around a few Mauser sporters. For the most part they stay in their leather carrying tubes when afield as I deem them backups to the receiver sights. If one learns how to maximize the efficiency of their equipment there is no need to abandon the 'old' methods, and also no need to follow the herd of 'high tech is better tech' ill informed scope purchasers. For my sighting purposes I follow the 'KISS' principle (Keep It Simple, Stupid).
This guy is a REAL HUNTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Edited by timbo762 (11/10/12 04:48 PM)
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#7063667 - 11/10/12 07:05 PM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: timbo762]
keith Offline
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Registered: 02/08/02
Posts: 4293
I like using an out house vs an indoor toilet also.

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#7064221 - 11/11/12 03:04 AM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: keith]
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Amen Brother!

Here is a picture of the camp outhouse. It sits a bit high for several reasons: Keep the rodents out (metal on lower side is to keep porcupines from chewing), and to let odor waft away leaving the natural scent of pine needles flowing through the window, which overlooks my pond. Great place to contemplate.




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#7064450 - 11/11/12 06:05 AM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: littlecmonkey]
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Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 3116
Loc: Alberta
I use fixed 4's or 6's on most of my huntign rifles , except for my Brwoing 1885 thata is chammbered in 6.5WSM- that one has an 8-32X, 34mm tubed IOR on it , for long range shooting.
The rest of my single shots are hunting rifles that are equipped with either express sights or receiver sights, and the scopes are in QD mounts.
hardly use them, have found no need for one with a 200 yard or closer shot uisng irons.
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#7105956 - 11/23/12 10:59 PM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: catnthehat]
John_Boy Offline
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Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 3515
Loc: Henderson, Texas
I prefer the fixed 4x & 6x scopes.
I've had fixed 12x & 24x on my target / varmint rifles.
I'm down to 3 variables, all 3-9x.
They will be gone one day, replaced by fixed power scopes, as soon as I can find someone to trade with.
The rifles that don't have scopes will have apeture sights.


Edited by John_Boy (11/23/12 11:00 PM)
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#7113811 - 11/26/12 08:43 AM Re: What's wrong with today's scope manufacturers? [Re: John_Boy]
Clarkm Offline
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Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 1115
Loc: WA rain forest
An old 2x7 Leupold shook apart inside from being on a home made cantilever scope mount.

Leupold sent me a new VX1 2x7 variable scope, but the power ring was very hard to turn, especially when cold.
I put a Stoney Point elevation turret on it.
In 2008 I shot 4 deer between 400 and 500 yards with the scope left on 2X.
In 2009 I shot 5 deer between 400 and 500 yards with the scope left on 7X.

In 2010 I killed 3 deer with a vari-x-iii 1.75x6.5 between 50 and 400 yards.
I got them all on 6.5X.
I put a Stoney Point elevation turret on it.

In 2012 I shot 4 deer with an old Vari-X ii 2x7.
I put a Stoney Point elevation turret on it.
The deer at 300 and 400 yards were on 7X.
The deer at 50 and 100 yards were on 2X.

Scopes I am considering getting for being:
cheap
light
clear
reliable
elevation turret adjustable for range

Leupold 3-9x33 Mark AR Rimfire E.F.R. Riflescope $439.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-3-9x33-Mark-AR-Rimfire-EFR-Riflescope-P50860.aspx

Leupold 2-7x33 VX-2 Riflescope $349.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-2-7x33-VX-2-Riflescope-P51794.aspx

Leupold 2-12x42 VX-6 30mm Riflescope $899.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-2-12x42-VX-6-30mm-Riflescope-P49437.aspx

Leupold 4-12x40 VX-2 Riflescope $499.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-4-12x40-VX-2-Riflescope-P51811.aspx

Leupold 3.5-10x40 VX-3 Riflescope $529.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-35-10x40-VX-3-Riflescope-P12651.aspx

Leupold 4.5-14x40 VX-3 30mm Riflescope $729.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-45-14x40-VX-3-30mm-Riflescope-P51787.aspx


Leupold 4.5-14x40 VX-3 Riflescope $649.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-45-14x40-VX-3-Riflescope-P51786.aspx


Leupold 2-12x42 VX-6 30mm Riflescope $899.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-2-12x42-VX-6-30mm-Riflescope-P49437.aspx


Leupold 3-18x44 VX-6 30mm Riflescope $1,099.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-3-18x44-VX-6-30mm-Riflescope-P52966.aspx

Sightron 3.5-10x44 SIII 30mm Riflescope $1,051.95
http://swfa.com/Sightron-35-10x44-SIII-30mm-Riflescope-P48417.aspx
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