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Originally Posted by bfrshooter
The only thing I don't like to read is how poor the WFN is at range, it is just not true. I shoot WFN boolits to 500 meters with super accuracy. I only ask that you don't believe what you read, test for yourself because everyone has a different result with EVERY boolit. Be FLEXIBLE and don't discount the WFN until you shoot it at long range.


Silly me. I was repeating what Veral Smith had told me before I ordered my last mould from him, which should be here shortly. I'll pass your expertise on to him so he doesn't make any more foolish mistakes like that again. I should have known that there would be someone out there who knows more than the bullets designer. I remember you, didn't you used to be on the Singleactions board?


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Thanks very much for posting those pic's and offering your expertise.

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old thread but great info !!!!

my son and i just got Ruger super blackhawks for elk and deer hunting . going for the antler less seasons , tired of the crowds . any states have a hunts for pistols ??

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Originally Posted by Tonk
Russ... most 240 grain bullets will be just fine for killing deer with your .44mag! I would bump up to the 265 grain hardcast bullets from Beartooth Bullets for elk for your pistol. They have a very big metplate and penetrate very deep. You can check them out at Beartooth Bullets.com forum.


I would very much agree as to Beartooth putting out a great hard-cast bullet.

I happen to load their 300gr. WFNGCHC in front of H110 and WLP primers. I'm sure that the 265gr. as Tonk suggests, would be fine for elk, but I feel just a bit more secure with the 300gr. offering as WA state is only 2nd to AK in #'s of bears. 'More is better' isn't always necessary nor does it aways apply, but in this instance and for that reason, I'm comfortable with that decision.

Although I've not taken nor hunted elk with my 629, I have taken a Blacktail 2X2 with this load and 629 and it was very effective, as you might have guessed. One hole in and one hole out is, to me, not a disadvantage.

Good luck.

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I load the 300 WFNGC from Beartooth as my "Bear" load....

The 250 WFNGC makes a great all around hunting bullet....


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Brilliant minds and all................LOL. I tell ya......it is almost impossible to even make a discernable scratch on a Beartooth bullet while applying considerable effort and force with your thumbnail. Tough boolits....

I've often thought of a 250-265gr. Beartooth offering as well for a 'great all-around' bullet as you say, but keep coming back to my many, many encounters with bears while afield. My luck, I'd load up some 250's in my 629 accidentally, run into a bear, place all 6 into his brain and yet surely get mauled and eaten........laughin' here.

Likely the 250-265 grainers would handily take care of the bear issue, but I just have a bit more faith in the 300 grainer, whether real or imagined.

And as for Zombies.......I bet I could get at least 4 full pass-throughs compared to your 3.........LOL.

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I load Marshall's 265 WFNGC in my 44 over Aliant 2400. It shoots very well in both my 44's. I load his 300 gr LFNGC in my 45 colt over H110. I wouldn't be afraid of elk at reasonable distances with either load/bullet.

He makes very good bullets.


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Thanks very much for posting those pic's and offering your expertise.


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I used the 325 gr. Cast Performance bullet and 22 gr. H110, out of a 6" Dan Wesson. This was a great load, very accurate in my gun. I used it to take a 500+ lb black bear that made Boone & Crockett. I shot that bear twice at a range of 10 yards. Both bullets struck the point of his right shoulder as he faced me, and traveled diagonally the entire length of the bear. I found both bullets just under the hide at the back of the left rear hip. I think penetrating 4 feet of bear is pretty effective. The bear never moved after the first shot. He stood there, coughed once, and collapsed at the second shot.
I'm now using a 454 Casull, and plan to use the 335 gr. Cast Performance and 23 gr. H110.

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http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000152660650

Ive found 20 grains of h110 under this 300 grain lyman bullet (cast from 5% pure tin and 95% wheel weights)is a good combo, in my 44 revolvers, it consistently shoots clear thru deer and hogs.
you don,t need more power than this combo provides on any deer or elk if you can shoot accurately, Ive hit and killed deer and hogs out in the 80-120 yard range very effectively, now I,m not saying a 500 S&W doesn,t hit harder, but this is a bit like discussing if a 30/06 or a 458 mag kills elk better, there comes a point where more power is far less important than proper shot placement

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more great info .keep it coming /

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this is the best info i have seen and Elk loads .

anything new ?

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You just can't go wrong with a good cast bullet.

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Originally Posted by UtahRob
this is the best info i have seen and Elk loads .

anything new ?


OK, it is considered bad forum etiquette to reopen old threads. Much better to simply start a new one.

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Originally Posted by dla
Originally Posted by UtahRob
this is the best info i have seen and Elk loads .

anything new ?


OK, it is considered bad forum etiquette to reopen old threads. Much better to simply start a new one.


Yea, gives the "Use the search" proponents a chance to post. grin

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