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So I finally ran across an action I've been looking for, for quite some time. A Win 70A (Ranger would have done as well). I know they're not exactly rare but they're creeping up to the 400-500$ mark before shipping and transfer online. Found a great deal at my LGS and its sitting in layaway for a few weeks.

I already have other projects in process for other game, like a dedicated dark timber elk rifle (375 Rug on a pre-64) a main elk rifle (M70 300 Wby I'm trying to get to 7.5lbs) and an ultralight elk/mule deer (M70 CRF I'm hoping to get around 6lbs in 30-06) So I have decided to use this as my dedicated goat gun.

It is currently a 30-06 pushfed action, so I am looking at something x57 or '06 based for the build. I want either a #4 or #5 barrel, possibly fluted for weight if going #5/Med Varmint. It will be going into a Boyd's JRS laminate stock that is already fairly hefty, so I have a good stable platform.

What I can't decide on, is what cartridge to go with! Obviously with the Ruger and Wby, I'm not one ot shy away from more expensive cartridges to play around with. But, I can also appreciate function at a cheaper price.

Stuff I'm thinking about so far -
6mm Rem *maybe AI*
240 Wby
25-06
280 Rem
257 Bob AI

Basically I'd like to be throwing a 100-110gr bullet in the 3100-3400fps ballpark.


Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions? 270 is right out, I'm in the anti-270 crowd lol and yes I've owned a few already.

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I'd vote for a 243 or any 6mm with better ballistics.

Took my first speed goat with one. 85 grain partition running 3400+ out the muzzle. 225 yards. Ran 20 feet.

They are quite small making hitting the vitals harder so realistically you need a rifle with a decent maximum point blank range. I could get out to 265 yards mpbr with mine.

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wind is a big enough (and consistent enough) issue that I"m a fan of 140-170 gr bullets. personally, I use a 280AI w. 160gr TSX .... but unfortunately that's not on your list..... whistle



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if it was a short action rifle I'd be looking at the 243 or 260...but, its a bit longer wink

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I'd sell you mine but your not in Kanada

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Utah,

The places I have hunted, and will likely continue to hunts CAN be windy, here and there, but for the most part they weren't normally above 5-10mph. When I see weather reports of 20mph and up, I just don't go hunting lol.

The 280 AI should probably have been included on that list.

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Of those you mentioned, my pick would be a 25-06..It will easily kick a 100 grain bullet along at 3400+..Mine has a #5 barrel, and is I believe 27" long..Very accurate..It may have killed 15 head of deer and antelope..It is one super coyote rifle also.


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6.5x284 6.5-06AI, or 6-06 if going for economical shooting. A 105 or 140 A-Max or a 115gr or 140 Berger would be swell.

.280AI if going for the best ballistic bang for your buck from a .30-06 donor. Wind is the only reason for this one. The power certainly isn't needed for 'lopes.

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Although I've shot mine with 7m-08 and 7mm WSM, if I were building one from scratch using a .30-06 length action it would be in a 25-06. Alays seemed to me that the 25-06 is the classic speed goat caliber.


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Doesn't do anything a 25-06 won't do, but I chose 257 AI and the goat didn't have much to say about it (100 gr Interlock @ 3250 fps, 200 yds):

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If I had an 06-length action (and I do) I'd go 25-06 AI which is on the task list right now...

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My goat gun is 25-06 shooting 100 grain interlocks.

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Originally Posted by kalbrecht
My goat gun is 25-06 shooting 100 grain interlocks.


Mine too. 26" #4 Lilja barrel, Acra-Bond laminated AAA Claro Walnut stock, MRC 1999 action, flat black Teflon coating on all metal, 2.5-16x50 Bushnell Elite 6500. Dang thing weighs about 12 lbs, but it ain't too bad carrying in antelope country.



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ShootDogs that sounds pretty darn similar to what I'm looking to build. I have thought about doing some mods to the stock to make it look like the Win 70 Outback Coyote...or just buying that stock, they're still around and fairly cheap. Between that and the flutes I'm hoping to get it closer to 9lbs vs 12 lol. But like you said, carrying a 12lbs rifle in goat country isn't exactly taxing, I'd take a 12lbs rifle on the plains any day over a 10lbs rifle @11k+

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25-06.
Rem 700 action.
Pac-Nor super match barrel cro-moly, 24 inches, Rem sporter contour.
Take off Rem Classic stock.
100 grain Ballistic Tip, IMR 4831, CCI standard primer.
Leupold VXII 4 X 12.

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6.5-06 for better bullet choice with high BC.

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Originally Posted by MileHighShooter
ShootDogs that sounds pretty darn similar to what I'm looking to build. I have thought about doing some mods to the stock to make it look like the Win 70 Outback Coyote...or just buying that stock, they're still around and fairly cheap. Between that and the flutes I'm hoping to get it closer to 9lbs vs 12 lol. But like you said, carrying a 12lbs rifle in goat country isn't exactly taxing, I'd take a 12lbs rifle on the plains any day over a 10lbs rifle @11k+


Here's a photo when I had the Kahles 3-9x on it.

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I agree with BC STEVE. I've got them all .I like my 257AI but isn't any better than 25-06. The 6.5's with high BC makes the most since. I also love my 270's w/140 bergers. TO EACH HIS OWN!!! It keeps gun smiths going!


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