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#7070045 - 11/12/12 07:19 PM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: blammer]
RickinTN Offline
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A slight rub with Imperial did the trick on the gas checks shaving. Still have a little "chatter" but I think that's probably normal. I live in Franklin, just south of Nashville, and probably about an hour from your folks. Thanks Blammer!

I think I remember Gnoahhh reccomending a 190 gr bullet at about a BHN of 12 or so, and about 1,900 FPS. for hunting Whitetail? Is there a certain mould which you favor?

One more question for you all here. It seems most flat point bullets are designed for the 30-30. Is it normal to have a lube groove exposed when loading for the '06? To get anywhere near the lands in the '06 I'm working with this is the case. Is there a good flatpoint mould designed more for the '06 case?
Thanks,
Rick

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#7070315 - 11/12/12 08:42 PM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: RickinTN]
APDDSN0864 Offline
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Take a look at these two;

RCBS 150GR FP LINK

RCBS 180GR FP LINK

Ed
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#7071054 - 11/13/12 07:03 AM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: APDDSN0864]
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Leaving a lube groove exposed won't hurt a thing, except maybe picking up some grit along the way- but honestly, has that ever been a problem for anybody?

My favorite flat nosed bullet is a 190 grain with a very wide meplat of .2", from out of an old Saeco custom mould that dates back over 30 years to when I was involved in cast bullet matches. Unfortunately they never catalog it. It was designed for a perfect fit in a specific .30/30 match barrel neck/throat, and serendipitously has been almost magical in every .30/30 and .303 Savage I've used it in since then, and a lot of other .30 calibers.
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#7071751 - 11/13/12 10:44 AM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: gnoahhh]
APDDSN0864 Offline
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Originally Posted By: gnoahhh
Leaving a lube groove exposed won't hurt a thing, except maybe picking up some grit along the way- but honestly, has that ever been a problem for anybody?

My favorite flat nosed bullet is a 190 grain with a very wide meplat of .2", from out of an old Saeco custom mould that dates back over 30 years to when I was involved in cast bullet matches. Unfortunately they never catalog it. It was designed for a perfect fit in a specific .30/30 match barrel neck/throat, and serendipitously has been almost magical in every .30/30 and .303 Savage I've used it in since then, and a lot of other .30 calibers.


Could you post a picture of one of those bullets? I am looking for a cast bullet for my .34-40 Krag and .30-30 Win. and I like wide meplats! grin

I'm betting one of the custom mould manufacturers could duplicate that.

Ed
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#7074579 - 11/14/12 07:52 AM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: APDDSN0864]
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I was hoping nobody would ask to see it! I dropped my camera which bollixed up the auto focus, and I'm a troglodyte who still uses an old clam shell cell phone from back when camera features were an option (which I didn't buy into then). I'll see what I can do to make it happen for you.

Factors influencing expansion of cast lead bullets: hardness, nose design (flat nose good, spitzers not so good, round nose ok, hollow points trump all), and velocity. Whole books could be written on the nuances/theories/practicalities of bullet design and delivery to the target.
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#7075137 - 11/14/12 11:06 AM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: gnoahhh]
APDDSN0864 Offline
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Originally Posted By: gnoahhh
Whole books could be written on the nuances/theories/practicalities of bullet design and delivery to the target.


And HAVE been! grin

Just when you get a chance. I have a few other projects in the fire right now and if I start another one I'll never finish any of them. laugh

Ed
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#7075527 - 11/14/12 01:28 PM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: APDDSN0864]
blammer Offline
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this is a good flat point for you , the 311041

I like this one, the 311284


oh wait, here's a pic of the bullet

It's the projectile in on the top
(this is with the 308 in my AR10 but I use my 311284 in the 30-06)




Edited by blammer (11/14/12 01:29 PM)
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#7075547 - 11/14/12 01:32 PM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: blammer]
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#7075553 - 11/14/12 01:34 PM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: blammer]
blammer Offline
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this lovern style will let you lube any number of grooves you need, has a good meplat on it, and is enough wt to get the job done easy. PLUS it has the advantage of being a will known shooter in several types of rifles.
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#7076303 - 11/14/12 05:24 PM Re: Hunter's Supply 165gr 30-30 [Re: blammer]
res45 Offline
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blammer,have you shot the 314466 bullet in the Mosin,I'm currently using the Lee 160 gr.TL GC bullet I normally shoot in my SKS rifles in my Mosin and accuracy is excellent but I want a bullet for the Mosin that has a flatter nose on it for hunting purposes.

My Lee 170 gr. 30-30 bullet.


Edited by res45 (11/14/12 05:29 PM)

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