cat, Nice Shot, is that a Canadian product??? Never saw it here in the U.S.

Nope, U.S. based and excellent stuff!
You can load right across using lead data until you reach about 15,000PSI IIRC.
Soft enough that you can squeeze it with pliars.
Cat

Thanks I will look into this for the areas that require notoxic stuff..

As much as I like doubles, a Mdl 391 Beretta 12ga is an awfully versatile gun.

I have an older Browning B-80, which is just the older Baretta 302 with a little hump, and I have hunted everything I hunt with a shotgun with that Browning.

I read this about shotguns and laugh my azz off at the guys here who adhere to this line, but insult anyone who shoots a Savage bolt action rifle.

"Won't hunt with any of them ugly rifles...grunt...fart..."

I like well made things, and quality doubles fit that preference. I also like to shoot inexpensive guns that work great. I wouldn't trade my Mossberg 835 for any other waterfowl gun or my old H&R Topper in 30-30/410 as a little meat-getting traveling combo.

Don't think you could go wrong with a Benelli M2 if budget allows...

I too like well made guns..I have had some nice doubles, and still have a good old fox sterlingworth..I have nothing against shooting anything one wants..For me shooting is easier and more natural with pump guns..A well made pump is a nicer weapon to me than a cheaply made double..I also feel ire when folks put down pump guns..Having just came through South Dakota the country it was filled with guys with new o/u's new, hunting clothes, being shuttled around to "hunt" some phesants by lodges charging up to $3500 for a three day hunt..If I came across as nasty sorry, but that is how I felt at the time..

Your prime consideration should be carrying weight (and balance, of course) and perfect fit. We don't know if you are a former linebacker or a current jockey - how can we recommend a specific gun for you?

We can tell you some basics about what works for pheasant and quail in terms of cartridges, choke and shot size.

But you need to tell us more about what you are looking for. Semi, pump, side by side, over/under, which do you like? Any action type will do the job perfectly well, and gauges 12, 16, 20 and even 28 can kill upland birds.

Shoot clays to get in some practice and learning time. Find what shotgun you like and are comfortable with. I happen to like them all. Go to where the Pheasants, Chukar, Quail, etc are and get some experience. Have fun, be safe and don't make it seem like work.

Really it isn't all that difficult, nor does what you use matter for the most part. Pump, Auto, O/U, SxS? It's all good and the season way to short.

While it's not my cup of tea either, why would you give two chits what the guys in SD were doing, or how much their guns, clothes, or lodging costs.
If that's what they like, or the only chance they have to hunt Pheasants who cares.
Your neck must get awfully stiff from constantly looking down your nose at others.

Snobs indeed?