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#6880279 - 09/17/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: Cocadori]
300MAG Offline
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Originally Posted By: Cocadori
Call me crazy but.. seeing as your going all out on the other stuff.

the heart of any rifle is the barrel.. why'd you choose kreiger?



Your jokin right?? Krieger is one of THE best barrels on the market - ask some of the top-notch gunsmiths (Robert Gradous, Surgeon Rifles, Terry Cross, BlackOps Precision, Jon Beanland etc etc) what they use.................



The three I'd stick to is: Krieger, Bartlein, and Rock


Edited by 300MAG (09/17/12)

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#6880322 - 09/17/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: 300MAG]
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Until my Jewel freezes/lock up, I'll keep hunting it.

10 degrees Saskatchwan w/Jewel trigger



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#6880419 - 09/17/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: 300MAG]
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Originally Posted By: 300MAG
Originally Posted By: Cocadori
Call me crazy but.. seeing as your going all out on the other stuff.

the heart of any rifle is the barrel.. why'd you choose kreiger?



Your jokin right?? Krieger is one of THE best barrels on the market - ask some of the top-notch gunsmiths (Robert Gradous, Surgeon Rifles, Terry Cross, BlackOps Precision, Jon Beanland etc etc) what they use.................



The three I'd stick to is: Krieger, Bartlein, and Rock


I'm aware of what they use. I've had rifles by some of them.

just asked a question is all.

Maybe I just had an off barrel by them....
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#6880421 - 09/17/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: slg888]
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Just like slg888 & a few others - I run jewell triggers on my hunting rifles and have never had any problems in the field!!

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#6880429 - 09/17/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: 300MAG]
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Cocadori,

All barrel companies have a lemon go out the door sometimes - it happens. Its how they handle it that makes them a good company!!

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#6880538 - 09/17/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: 300MAG]
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Originally Posted By: 300MAG
Just like slg888 & a few others - I run jewell triggers on my hunting rifles and have never had any problems in the field!!


I've run quite a few jewels myself. Dusty conditions is not their friend.
They are great triggers and like them a lot. I'd choose something else for a working field rifle though.
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#6881280 - 09/17/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: Cocadori]
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Originally Posted By: Cocadori
Originally Posted By: 300MAG
Just like slg888 & a few others - I run jewell triggers on my hunting rifles and have never had any problems in the field!!


Dusty conditions is not their friend.


+1

We hunt in dusty/sandy conditions and I have seen a Jewell trigger get "locked up" a couple times.

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#6881862 - 09/17/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: REDGUN]
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Originally Posted By: REDGUN
We hunt in dusty/sandy conditions and I have seen a Jewell trigger get "locked up" a couple times.
This 'joker was kicking up some sand to lock my Jewel in Africa.... He was not successful smile


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#6883841 - 09/18/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: slg888]
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Get a lot of dust in the truck did ya? Must been hunting with the Windows down
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#6883924 - 09/18/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: Torque]
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Originally Posted By: Torque
I have done a lot of side work this year and have saved up enough to finally build this rifle. Here are the components and the plans for them. Any educated advice is VERY welcome. I plan on this being my every year hunting rifle, so please let me know if you think I'm making a mistake or know a better way to go.

1. Surgeon 1086 long action
2. Surgeon Long action bottom metal
3. Kreiger #2 24" 280 AI barrel (questionable)
4. McMillan Remington Hunter stock
5. Jewell trigger (I was kinda iffy on this one)
6. Leupold PRW rings
7. Glass is totally undecided

I'm sure I can't go wrong choosing a Kreiger, but my last project used a Lothar-Walther 26" 30-06 barrel and it shoots 1/2 MOA. So, Im torn between the two atm. I will probably go Kreiger since I have never owned one and would like to give them a try.

The jewell trigger is my other concern. They have a great reputation, but I have seen other choices brought up by some members.

Once the barrel is installed at Kreiger, it will head to Eddie Fosnaugh for Cerakote and bedding in the McMillan.

Glass is up in the air for me. S&B, Leupold are the two I have had experience with.

So, any criticisms or advice? Anything I'm forgetting?


I would change the #2 barrel to a #3. I'm not sure Krieger will even do a stainless #2 in 7mm.

Instead of the Remington Hunter, use the McMillan Hunter. The Remington Hunter will swallow anything short of a #4 barrel. The McMillan Hunter has a slimmer forend more suited to a lightweight barrel. If you're dead set on a Remington Hunter, then I would go no lighter than a #4 barrel.

I use Shilen triggers and really like them.

John
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#6883934 - 09/18/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: Cocadori]
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Originally Posted By: Cocadori
Get a lot of dust in the truck did ya? Must been hunting with the Windows down
Don't think so grin try agian. A pic from my exterior seat & where my rifle stayed. My Bat action was covered in dust & stiff to cycle, but never an issue with the Jewel trigger.



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#6885778 - 09/18/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: slg888]
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Originally Posted By: slg888
Originally Posted By: Cocadori
Get a lot of dust in the truck did ya? Must been hunting with the Windows down
Don't think so grin try agian. A pic from my exterior seat & where my rifle stayed. My Bat action was covered in dust & stiff to cycle, but never an issue with the Jewel trigger.




Eventually tight tolerances will fall subject to issues in dusty conditions. Jewel's aren't an exception. I've seen it happen a few times.
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#6886321 - 09/19/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: Torque]
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I'm doing a couple similar builds in .280 AI.

Rem 700 actions (blue printed)
Rock #2 SS finished at 23" or 24" (going against the grain on the #3 folks)
1) McMillan Hunter Edge Stock. Like others have stated, this is the slimmer version than the Rem Hunter. I already have one in a 7-08 with a Rock #2 in it and love it.
2) McMillan Rem Mountain Rifle Edge
Both will be ADL

I'm building all around light weight hunting rigs for future trips.

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#6886511 - 09/19/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: BBsteel]
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BB, my latest build is very similar to yours.
#2 Rock 24" 6mm/284.
HuntersEDGE.
Mine is being screwed nutless on a LH LA Savage.
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#7068254 - 11/12/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: nsaqam]
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Here is how everything panned out.

Surgeon 1086 Long Action
HS Precision Long Action Bottom metal
McMillan Hunter (decided on McWoody)
#4 Rock Creek Stainless 7mm 8.5 twist
Jewell Stainless Trigger with safety and no bolt release

The only things left I have to purchase are rings, I have the Leupold rings I mentioned earlier, and glass.

After spending the money on the things above, I don't want to go cheap on the glass. I am considering a Nightfoce 3.5-15x50. Any suggestions?

Also, any suggestions on a gunsmith for cerakoting and the final build would be appreciated. I have had a gunsmith in GA recommended to me. Does anyone have suggestions for a gunsmith who may specialize in or does very good work on 280 AI with the 40 degree shoulder, not the SAAMI spec?
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#7075355 - 11/14/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: Torque]
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The Nightforce 3.5-15X50 is a pretty good sized scope, especially on a rig with a sporter contour barrel. Dimensionally, the NF 2.5-10X32 might be just as good magnification wise but aesthetically better balanced.

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#7075372 - 11/14/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: Torque]
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I hear that the slim forend of the McMillan Hunter will pretty well be slammed full if going with a #4. I'd push it back to a #3 if it were mine. If you are wanting to go with a heavier rifle, as it seems that way since you are mentioning a big NF scope and #4 contour, then I would go with something other than the McMillan Hunter. Too many of your parts choices are conflicting in my book.
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#7075432 - 11/14/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: JPro]
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Originally Posted By: JPro
I hear that the slim forend of the McMillan Hunter will pretty well be slammed full if going with a #4. I'd push it back to a #3 if it were mine. If you are wanting to go with a heavier rifle, as it seems that way since you are mentioning a big NF scope and #4 contour, then I would go with something other than the McMillan Hunter. Too many of your parts choices are conflicting in my book.


I agree that the NF will be a tank on a hunting rig, but think the New McM Hunter will do fine on a #4 Rock. I had my Hunter done for a #4 Rock and while it is slim, it seems to have plenty of stock left for a decent look:

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#7075486 - 11/14/12 Re: So here's the plan...... [Re: Reloader7RM]
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Here's a similar rig I built in 7MM Mag:

*Surgeon 1086 action

*Brux #5 fluted barrel = 1-9" twist, 24" finished length, Kampfeld muzzle brake

*McMillan Rem Hunter stock

*Badger M4 bottom metal, Rem mag box, milled steel follower, & spring

*Jewell trigger tuned to 2.5#

*All metal cera-koted graphite black

*Seekins rings

*NightForce NXS 3.5-15x50 scope










Edited by 300MAG (11/14/12)

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