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First of all, I'm very thankful those who spoke on his behalf and knew him well as well as those who brought sane perspective to earning a living and what that means.
My question is this...there was almost as much complaining about T/C as there was about LW. Why is that? I can see how their new switch barrel rifle isn't well received but what is so bad about the Encores and Contenders? I have been a Contender lover for several decades and the only complaint I really have is that there is no end to the barrels I want.
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It's not a Rem 700 in a McMillan ( insert their favorite stock here ).
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I want a Contender.
Be easier to travel with. Have a 12 gauge, 30-06, .50 caliber muzzle loader, and a .223 all in one case.
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I want a Contender.
Be easier to travel with. Have a 12 gauge, 30-06, .50 caliber muzzle loader, and a .223 all in one case. No 30-06 on the Contender, have to go to the Encore for that. Similarly, TC quit making muzzleloading barrels for Contenders. They can be had used or custom, but not 'factory direct'. FWIW...
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if you don't mine a single shot, then the Encore/Contender is fine.
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It's not a Rem 700 in a McMillan ( insert their favorite stock here ). It's even worse if it doesn't have a Leupold.
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if you don't mine a Butt Ugly single shot, then the Encore/Contender is fine.
This...
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My issue is all they do is pimp their guns out to everyone/anyone on 99% of the TV shows, same with Mathews and their bows.
I could care less what someone else uses, but when I see companies trying to cram their product down your throat through flooding the advertising market I'm less inclined to buy their product, versus wanting to buy something and supporting more advertising.
I essentially quit watching the white tail shows and now the new thing "hog hunting shows". Love both sports, but it gets old watching them shoot the same thing time after time.
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I think it's because they don't twist their .22-250 barrels properly.
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if you don't mine a Butt Ugly single shot, then the Encore/Contender is fine.
This... I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I really like the way they look...especially in handgun form or the shorter barreled carbines...especially the original Contender.
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my only issue with the T/C break-action single shots is that they seem to be in general more fussy about accuracy than a bolt action rifle. given the choice between an ICON and say a pro-hunter in something like a .308, I'll take the ICON every day. With the action bedding, good trigger, etc., it's just more likely to shoot accurately and consistently OOTB. Although there definitely seem to be some gunsmiths out there than can tune up an Encore to be a tackdriver.
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It's not a Rem 700 in a McMillan ( insert their favorite stock here ). It's even worse if it doesn't have a Leupold. Yep that was my first guess too. I get that they're ugly but I shoot Savages and don't care for the pot/kettle thing. As for the fact that they buy advertising, I personally haven't seen much point in watching those shows at all. Just me I know, but I hate the tv and would rather DO IT... hence no spectator sports... and I'm a hard core free market guy and will buy what works, and don't care how much money a company wastes advertising on shows I don't watch... To each his own and for his own reasons.
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I have had # 1s and don't object to single shots.
The Contenders just don't fit my hand, it's awkard for me.
I REALLY object to the LOOKS of an Encore. Seriously, to me, it looks like they put a 2 X 6 on it for a stock and then thot,....
Oh! we can't grip it and then CUT the notch for a 'pistol grip'.
That's my kick!
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My issue is all they do is pimp their guns out to everyone/anyone on 99% of the TV shows, same with Mathews and their bows.
I could care less what someone else uses, but when I see companies trying to cram their product down your throat through flooding the advertising market I'm less inclined to buy their product, versus wanting to buy something and supporting more advertising.
I essentially quit watching the white tail shows and now the new thing "hog hunting shows". Love both sports, but it gets old watching them shoot the same thing time after time.
I am just wondering who do you think pays for the airtime for those shows???
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I have had # 1s and don't object to single shots.
The Contenders just don't fit my hand, it's awkard for me.
I REALLY object to the LOOKS of an Encore. Seriously, to me, it looks like they put a 2 X 6 on it for a stock and then thot,....
Oh! we can't grip it and then CUT the notch for a 'pistol grip'.
That's my kick! Ya, some of the rifle stocks DO look awkward! I thought the original carbine Contender stocks looked very nice but the stocks that really shine, IMHO, are the custome thumbhole stocks. On a bolt gun I don't like them but to me, they are perfect on a Contender or Encore. I also think the long barrels look out of whack on them but the original 21" tubes are pretty sweet.
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I shoot Savages mostly .Now with that said I don't like any company take over on guns look at what Rem.did to Marlins an H&R junk now same with TC .They been there a while now .Tarus an Rossie about the only ones that can get this right . You can get any one to shoot an talk about guns But a group of hunters will sell more for u Just put your product out there if it great like Savage it will sell . U gun manfactures send hunters your guns let us evaluerate it
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Contenders are well thought out, trim, minimalist, break action carbines that allow easy experimentation with both rimfire and centerfire cartridges, are a joy to use in the field, and can fill a niche for a lot of rifle loonies.
Encores are mass marketed, ugly, abortions.
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I shoot Savages mostly .Now with that said I don't like any company take over on guns look at what Rem.did to Marlins an H&R junk now same with TC .They been there a while now .Tarus an Rossie about the only ones that can get this right . You can get any one to shoot an talk about guns But a group of hunters will sell more for u Just put your product out there if it great like Savage it will sell . U gun manfactures send hunters your guns let us evaluerate it Very well stated. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Contenders are well thought out, trim, minimalist, break action carbines that allow easy experimentation with both rimfire and centerfire cartridges, are a joy to use in the field, and can fill a niche for a lot of rifle loonies.
Encores are mass marketed, ugly, abortions.
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