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Along with a bunch of jobs. Lets here it for the unions. Just before the holidays, way to go.

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Surely I won't have to buy twinkies made in China...


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Unions are so awesome. If only evil business owners understood business economics like they do. We have several of the Nobel Prize winning union economists here. They'll be along to explain it to you post haste. It's 'magic'....

Oh well, what's a few more thousand on food stamps.


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The insanity of some unions is legendary. WHY would the union "leadership" opt to stay out on strike when a complete closing is the result?? A bigger and better deal?? Hell no. Now NOBODY has a job. Organize this idiots! Do the union bosses at national level lose their pay?? Do they et their own "Golden Parachute"?? Will they share it with the out of work folks that they so "ably" "represented"???? Inquiring minds want to know.


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That sucks bigtime, am I correct in assuming this to be a well over a hundred year old US company that just fell?

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Only one of the unions - the bakers - didn't come to an agreement. I saw an interview with their union guy and he said they fully expected Hostess to either cave in or sell off to another company that would give them a better contract lol.

No way someone is going to buy Hostess. What is going to happen, and the CEO of Hostess has already said his is the path they will take, is they will sell off the trademarks that are worth something to a company already in the business and sell off the plants/property for pennies on the dollar.

Here's a list of closings as of 7am Friday. 18,000 employees in total.

Plant Status

Birmingham, AL: Closed

Anchorage, AK: Closed

Los Angeles, CA (Hostess): Closed

Los Angeles, CA (Dolly): Closed

Oakland, CA: Closed

Sacramento, CA: Closed

Denver, CO: Closed

Jacksonville, FL: Closed

Orlando, FL: Closed

Columbus, GA: Closed

Hodgkins, IL: Closed

Peoria, IL: Closed

Schiller Park, IL: Closed

Columbus, IN: Closed

Indianapolis, IN: Closed

Waterloo, IA: Closed

Emporia, KS: Closed

Lenexa, KS: Closed

Alexandria, LA: Closed

Biddeford, ME: Closed

Boonville, MO: Closed

St. Louis, MO: Closed

Billings, MT: Closed

Henderson, NV: Closed

Wayne, NJ: Closed

Rocky Mount, NC: Closed

Cincinnati, OH: Closed

Defiance, OH: Closed

Northwood, OH: Closed

Tulsa, OK: Closed

Philadelphia, PA: Closed

Knoxville, TN: Closed

Memphis, TN: Closed

Ogden, UT: Closed

Salt Lake City, UT: Closed

Seattle, WA: Closed

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Sounds like the union Twinkies really stepped on their Ding Dongs this time.



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I think this is their 3rd bankruptcy since 2000, and the second since this past January. Surely the union folks knew the company wasn't in good shape.

I'm picking up the vibe that all of the left views the results of most recent election as confirmation that the vast majority of the country embraces their views. As such, it's a pretext for them to become even more belligerent in their demands. I heard Patty Murray on NPR this am, saying there will be no Fiscal Cliff deal if it goes beyond 50% entitlement cuts to 50% tax increases. There's simply not enough $ among the rich to pay for that % of the total deficit.

I don't have any gold. I think I need to get my lead mated up to some brass, pronto.

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Rick, that should become a campfire classic! smile


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Gonna be sickening to see what else falls in the coming months due to blowzero care and the union BS combined, talking about out living your usefulness = unions.

And hell yes on part two, been wearing out the arm on my presses since 11/08.

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In all honesty, their bread had already went bankrupt. I used to think that Hostess bread was the best but the last few years, the cheap store brands were better. miles


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Originally Posted by EvilTwin
The insanity of some unions is legendary. WHY would the union "leadership" opt to stay out on strike when a complete closing is the result?? A bigger and better deal?? Hell no. Now NOBODY has a job. Organize this idiots! Do the union bosses at national level lose their pay?? Do they et their own "Golden Parachute"?? Will they share it with the out of work folks that they so "ably" "represented"???? Inquiring minds want to know.
They do it because the vast majority of the time it works and 'most' of them get to keep their jobs. They are simply mindless drones working for their union bosses and paying them to boot, all the while the union bosses convince the drones it's the guys signing their paychecks that are the evil ones. Quit ingenious really....


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This is just the beginning, it'll get a lot worse before it gets better.

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When I was much younger, Hostess Ding-Dongs and Budweiser was a breakfast staple. It is the end of an era.


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During the 1950s when US Steel was king, Unions struck repeatedly and the industry was at the same crossroads Hostess is today. The Unions were warned at the impending loss due to cheaper costs abroads and their answer was "let it fail" which of course it did. You can fill in the blanks for just about any industry and it's not just unions. There was a thread here recently about college education and whether it was "worth it" or not. It was clear from that discussion where the problem lies and the democraps made great use of this during this past election.
The world needs McDonald's order clerks too and they can't expect to make the same money an "educated" person makes and that premise is easily extended to Twinkie Makers....


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Originally Posted by GeauxLSU
Unions are so awesome. If only evil business owners understood business economics like they do. We have several of the Nobel Prize winning union economists here. They'll be along to explain it to you post haste. It's 'magic'....


Yep - Note that the people at the Bakers Union are huge contributors to the workforce and I'm sure they will "feel the pain" of their union workers. crazy

http://www.bctgm.org/international/bctgm_whofrank.html

http://www.bctgm.org/international/bctgm_whodavid.html

http://www.bctgm.org/international/bctgm_whojoeseph.html

They have all been Union leadership in one form or another for > 40 years. Bet they are not taking a pay cut.



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Worked so well for Eastern Airlines, these morons figured they follow along.

Just too bad Chrysler wasn't afforded the opportunity to do the same.


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I think that Little Debbie is behind alla' this,.....



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Originally Posted by Foxbat
Worked so well for Eastern Airlines, these morons figured they follow along.


That one was a bit more complicated. My Grandfather was a pilot for Eastern and Uncle a mech and Aunt a gate person. It was a combination of Frank Lorenzo and Union stupidity combined with deregulation, fuel prices and Eastern poorly upgrading their fleet 10-15 years prior. Lots of blame to go around.


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