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#7079432 - 11/15/12 04:27 PM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: 458 Lott]
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Originally Posted By: 458 Lott
One of the few shortcomings of toyota trucks is wimpy springs in the rear.

On the upsdide it's an easy relatively inexspensive fix.


Are there any advantages/disadvantages to the air bag option over the add a leaf option?

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#7079609 - 11/15/12 05:25 PM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: oldslowdog]
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Air bags can be adjusted to match the load. Booster springs can't.
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#7079652 - 11/15/12 05:35 PM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: Rock Chuck]
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If the truck is sagging with just a shell on the back, it's time to address the springs.

Air bags are great for leveling out a vehicle when it's carrying a load, but using them to fix sagging springs in an unloaded truck IMHO is not the right way to use them.
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#7080099 - 11/15/12 07:30 PM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: 458 Lott]
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A pals truck does the same with a leveling kit up front & load in back now.
Trucks are designed to have a low nose due to the fact when you put a load in the bed it rises & levels out.
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#7080710 - 11/16/12 05:22 AM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: 458 Lott]
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Originally Posted By: 458 Lott
If the truck is sagging with just a shell on the back, it's time to address the springs.


With just the shell and an empty bed it sits within an inch or so of level.

But with the addition of maybe 300 lbs (stall mat "bedliner", extraction gear, hunting gear, and a cooler or two of deer meat)and it's sitting well back on the rear springs.

It handles fine as is, so if I can level it out with a typical load (using either option) would I be ok mechanically?

I know I could take off the leveling kit, but if the rear springs are shot (like RC says) it would still sag with a load. And I like the option of going with slightly taller tires when these wear out.

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#7080812 - 11/16/12 05:54 AM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: oldslowdog]
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Load capacity varies by model but it will be a minimum of about 1600lb on any model. If it sags with just a shell and 200lb, you have a problem that needs fixing. Sagging like that will affect steering among other things.
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#7085348 - 11/17/12 05:11 PM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: Rock Chuck]
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Well, I decided to go with a Hellwig helper spring kit. Less than a hundred bucks, and relatively easy to install.

If that doesn't fix it, I'll add airbags.

Thanks for all the help and advice!

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#7090953 - 11/19/12 02:07 PM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: oldslowdog]
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Why not just fix the springs?
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#7099432 - 11/21/12 08:20 PM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: tzone]
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Take that goofy leveling kit off the front end before you do anything else. Trucks sit slightly nose low for a reason. All the boy racer types want to jack up the front end with these leveling kits and they ruin the utility of the truck. I think they look stupid also, the truck ends up looking like a dog running with it's tail between it's legs.

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#7103957 - 11/23/12 09:52 AM Re: Tundra suspension question [Re: oldslowdog]
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Originally Posted By: oldslowdog
I'll have to look into the air bag thing. I'd never heard of those....Booster springs are just add-a- leafs, right?

Thanks RC


Had Airlift bags in my Silverado..................never the phuck again
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