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I have the standard version of all the cartridges on your list. I love the Weatherby's, but using a .30-06 bolt face for a build, I would go with the .280, or 280AI if you like. I would want the heavier bullets and high BC of the 7mm round. If you had a magnum action, I would lean towards the .257 Weatherby. That being said, my current coyote and pronghorn rifle is a .240 Weatherby.

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Originally Posted by joelbiltz
6.5x284.

That's my choice, 140 gr. Bergers at 3,000 fps. I have an H.S. Precision SPL .240 Wby, but feel the heavier 6.5mm bullet with greater B.C. is better than the 6mm in cross winds at ranges of 400 yds. or so.

Mine is a pre-64 with Borden's Bumps, blueprinted action, 26" 8.5 twist Kreiger, Jewell trigger, pillared and bedded in a Jon Sundra Boyd laminated stock. I have a Z5 3.5-18x44 BT, fitted with an Outdoorsmans turret, set up for this load out to 600 yds. It'll do 4 1/2" at 600 off a bench.

Three speed goats over the past three years, all under 400 yds.

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I'm going to vote for .280 AI...

because I have that reamer, a #3 Lilja ready to go, and my shop is about 50 miles north of you. Hint hint. PM sent.

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I shot my 280AI side by side with my similar built 6.5-284 Wednesday. Was shooting to double check drop, well playing I guess. Either way out to 700 it's same/same......after that I started playin at 1,000 real quick before we ha to go.

I really like the 6.5-284 but could be just as happy with a 6.5-06 or 6-06 for deer sized stuff. Really want to do a big 6 sometime.



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I'd go with something in 6.5 for the bullet selection, and probably end up with 130 or 140 vlds. With that action, an `06 Improved.



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25-06, 6.5-06, 270, 280, whatever turns your crank. For just goats would run 25-06 and not look back. That said, I think your build is too chunky for me. I'd run a #2 Hart and call it good whatever cartridge you decide on.


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Light barrels won't shoot good.......



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For me, there are two that come to mind with a long action.
First, simple, easy, 25-06. Hard to beat in factory chambering. Easy to load, and shoot. I have one in the making on a VZ24 right now. It is a cheap Adams and Bennett barrel and a friend gave me a laminate thumbhole he built for doing some work for him. Should be good to go with 100s or 115-120s.
Second, 6.5-06AI. I have one on a 700, 28" varmint contour, B&C M40 stock. Shoots 100btips at 3500 and 123 A-max at 3200.

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Nice goat, Jeff.

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Reads like you already have an M70 30-06 donor...

6/06 @ 24" using 105 Amax
6.5/06 @24" with 140 bergs

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CLB,

Of the two you mentioned, which round would have the long range advantage, i.e. B.C.'s, etc.?

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6.5's beat both 6mm's and .25's ballistically however, I'd go .25-06. Easy to get, easy to load for, shoots flat, kills goats dead.


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As you move from 6-06 to .280AI, you're going to trade some recoil and barrel life for wind drift and hitting power. You have to decide how much recoil, barrel life, wind drift, and hitting power you want in your rifle, but for me and speed goats, I'd roll with a 6-06 twisted at 1:7.5" running the 115gr Berger VLD or the 105gr Hybrid.

If looking for cheap shooting, then the 105gr Hornady HPBT or A-Max would be swell. Barrel life isn't going to be stellar, but you'll be able to spot your shots when using a heavy rifle, wind drift will be manageable (nearly identical out to 1000 yards using a 105 Hybrid at 3305fps vs a 140 Hybrid at 3000fps from a 6.5-06), and killing power will be plenty.

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6'5-06 -or- 6.5-284. Skip the AI, fireforming is for the birds...

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.25-06.......280......or 6-06


I would just really like to get me a speed goat. Maybe one day


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DF,

I think the BC of the 140 VLD is .612(not sure at what velocity). To me, edge goes to the 6.5/06 when combined with the the 140 VLD. I have such a combo on my board soon to be built. YMMV.

Heck, the 6/06 with the 115 VLD would be a heck of a combo also.

Only limitations of any reasonable combo would be those of the shooter...

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6.5's rule. You can shoot from 85's to 160's. Same cannot be said for the 6mm's.

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Question- how many guys load a rifle with every available bullet weight these days? I know I don't. I have maybe two loads per rifle. In 6mm I'd load a 105 or 115gr bullet for longer range shooting, and an 80gr TTSX for close-range killing. In 6.5mm I'd roll with a 120TTSX and 140VLD.

I'd shoot anything from coyotes to moose with either one. So all caliber nut-swinging aside, both would be great choices.

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When I wanted a rifle to head south for speed goats I settled on a .25-06AI,shooting 100gr TTSXs.As a wind bucking rifle I took either a .280AI or 7SAUM(ballistic twins).If I make it south again I will take my 6.5Rem Mag(24" Shilen) as a second rifle I think.It's shooting 120BTs into .25" at 3240fps. Monashee


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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Question- how many guys load a rifle with every available bullet weight these days? I know I don't. I have maybe two loads per rifle. In 6mm I'd load a 105 or 115gr bullet for longer range shooting, and an 80gr TTSX for close-range killing. In 6.5mm I'd roll with a 120TTSX and 140VLD.

I'd shoot anything from coyotes to moose with either one. So all caliber nut-swinging aside, both would be great choices.


I have four different loads worked up for my 6.5x55...100's, 120's, 130's and 156's. I could hunt anything in the lower 48 with that gun, and would if I didn't have too many guns already.

6mm's are fun, and I have a 243. But they are a joke in the wind, even with a 105 or 115.

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