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they did....the union rejected it. sayonara! I guess the union bosses still have their jobs.
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Sounds like the union Twinkies really stepped on their Ding Dongs this time.
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The company's happy, the union's happy - everybody wins.
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they did....the union rejected it. sayonara! I guess the union bosses still have their jobs. Always will. The Laborer's are just their pawns.
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Non union shops are simply kicking the asses of the union shops and the unions are running out of options.
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Non union shops are simply kicking the asses of the union shops and the unions are running out of options.
We need more Walkers in this country. It's a beautiful thing to see, too! That's where my investment money goes.
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Union and Non-Union companies come and go every day...that is what always happens when any company is run like chit (as is the case with Hostess).
Maybe the way they were mismanaged is that they paid their employees too much.
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Probably the 4th wife of a union baker.
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Only one of the unions - the bakers - didn't come to an agreement. I saw an interview with their union guy and he said they fully expected Hostess to either cave in or sell off to another company that would give them a better contract lol. I guess the unions understand the term GFY now...
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You never negotiate with terrorists. But yes, sometimes they kill the hostage.
Hostage takers don't care about the hostage, by definition.
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Union and Non-Union companies come and go every day...that is what always happens when any company is run like chit (as is the case with Hostess).
Maybe the way they were mismanaged is that they paid their employees too much. Really? With 2.5 billion in sales? Labor killed them? Sure it did. Hiring chit Managers probably had nothing to do with anything.
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Really? With 2.5 billion in sales? Labor killed them?
Sure it did.
Hiring chit Managers probably had nothing to do with anything. Oh man, ANOTHER corporate financial whiz!  Buzz, let me ask you, you have just been appointed "Jobs Czar" for the USA. What should the federally mandated minimum wage be?
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The average wage for a Hostess bakery worker is/was $13.78/hr.
That doesn't sound excessive to me.
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The average wage for a Hostess bakery worker is/was $13.78/hr.
That doesn't sound excessive to me. So almost twice, 190% of, the federal minimum wage isn't excessive for a factory bakery worker? Okaaaaayyyy........
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I do my best to NOT buy from China, Japan and union made!
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That does not sound like an unfair wage, but how much of that is Union dues, what are the health insurance and other benefit costs that go into it. Assuming our costs of close to $12,000 per FTE, we are looking at an additioanl $6 per hour in employee costs. And at what price point would Hostess have to price their food to realize a profit. They may be overly leveraged, but this is not a strong market for manufacturing location sales.
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GeauxLSU,
Why have the past 6 CEO's that Hostess hired in the last 8 years not had a fuggin' lick of experience between them in anything to do with the baking/snack industry? Is it a good idea to pay a CEO with NO experience in the the business he is running $29K a week in Salary with almost double that in stock options and benefits?
You whine like a bitch about 13.78/hour being "overpaid" by people that actually HAVE experience in the job they are doing...yet systematically think 50K/week paid to a douchebag with zero experience is A-OK?
Is it a good idea to hire a fuggin' plumber to fix your car?
Of course, THAT FACT probably had nothing to do with the demise of Hostess.
Right?
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The average wage for a Hostess bakery worker is/was $13.78/hr.
That doesn't sound excessive to me. So almost twice, 190% of, the federal minimum wage isn't excessive for a factory bakery worker? Okaaaaayyyy........ No, it isn't imo. It's okay though, Hostess aint over. They'll simply get 18,000 Mexicanos imported that'll be happy to work for 8 bucks an hour.
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I heard on the Salt Lake City Fox channel last night that the executives still got their bonuses even though the company was going down hill. Asking the workers to take a pay cut when the bosses are getting bonuses is just too much in my opinion. The Unions screwed themselves but if the report was true about bonuses, I can see why they did it. They were p'o'd and not thinking straight!
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