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I've had 4 hunters ask to cancel hunts based on business changes that effect their companies with health care, the cost of fuel, loans for materials etc.

They were banking 100% on a conservative winner that would stop the bleeding. These four people do not know each other, are not in related business and live in different areas of the USA.

I never saw this coming, so it's a tough situation for us now too. The loss of four hunters and 4 non-hunters is a good chunk of our business now too.

And so it begins! The spiral of small business destruction.


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They should go when they can still have a gun...

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Sadly, I think that is going to become the rule and not the exception.

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Originally Posted by BOWHUNR
Sadly, I think that is going to become the rule and not the exception.

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Sadly I agree as well...

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all the way around frown


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My best friend and his wife have a small fishing lodge at Whale Pass, SE AK. They are experiencing the same thing with their long time regulars now.

This might put them under.

FUGG that Muzzy Kenyan all to HLL! mad


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My business has sort of come to a screeching halt after the election. My customers are all too scared to spend money, everyone was banking on the Kenyan being defeated. I hope this economy isn't the new norm.

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Agazain: And what country would that be. We ARE the last country, that lets folks have guns. Austalia, etc., very much restricted, as are most parts of Africa. I was told in Namibia, that if you already have a couple of guns and want another (family even) are asked, "what for" you already have enough..

have a friend in Idaho said he was going to leave the USofA if O won, and I asked him the same thing. WHERE you intend to go that isn't already worse?


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Wife and I have all of our plans (building a second house on the property, buying a used economy car etc.) on hold.
And we're debt free...

If I didn't have adult kids out there trying to make it I'd say let it all burn.
Get what we deserve as a country for adopting socialist European ideology.

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If people and businesses were afraid to spend and invest before the election, we are seeing the aftermath of a GOP loss.
There is nothing positive to look forward to in 2013 and beyond.
This is not "sour grapes". Obamacare alone is going to be a huge tax burden as it unravels into our economy. Look at the unemployment surging with companies after Nov. 6th.
I'm afraid for JJ and others, its going to get worse before better. Just how much is anyones guess.


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Originally Posted by ghost
Agazain: And what country would that be. We ARE the last country, that lets folks have guns. Austalia, etc., very much restricted, as are most parts of Africa. I was told in Namibia, that if you already have a couple of guns and want another (family even) are asked, "what for" you already have enough..

have a friend in Idaho said he was going to leave the USofA if O won, and I asked him the same thing. WHERE you intend to go that isn't already worse?


Have to call you wrong on that one as NZ still has laws that encourage hunting and gun ownership. We have COLFO (coalition of liscenced firearms owners) that has made good representation when gun law reviews were mooted and with factual rather than emotive lobying has kept the rot at bay that has infected many of the places you allude to.Maybe not as open slather free as the US but hunting and recreationary use of most weapons is available. The restrictions from the US are what makes things difficult for us with YOUR laws restricting what we can get from you direct. I have been waiting since early Aug to get a reamer from Mansons.



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VG is correct....NZ really is God's country.

Or will be until over-run by Indians and such.


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It's almost impossible to emigrate to NZ, I understand. I would have made the move years ago, but I didn't have a medical degree or similar.

You Kiwis are a great bunch! laugh I meet some here on the ski slopes who work at the resorts. They have a great attitude and sense of humor. grin


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Originally Posted by luv2safari
It's almost impossible to emigrate to NZ, I understand. I would have made the move years ago, but I didn't have a medical degree or similar.


If you have enough money to qualify as investor class, they'll let you in.


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Soon some of you guys might be able to get in as refugees, beeing minorities sufering persecution fof your belief's. whistle


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
....NZ really is God's country.



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I can second what Gerogiaboiler said regarding my business. We are literally day to day. Four years ago I was working five electricians, now it's down to one and myself. I see no relief on the horizon or in the distant future. We used to go see my two sons every year and they would come here. That hasn't happened in two years because of fuel prices and I will not be groped by TSA. And, I guess I'm just old fashioned enough if one of their goons or goonesses groped my wife I would end up in trouble.


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Originally Posted by luv2safari
It's almost impossible to emigrate to NZ, I understand. I would have made the move years ago, but I didn't have a medical degree or similar.

You Kiwis are a great bunch! laugh I meet some here on the ski slopes who work at the resorts. They have a great attitude and sense of humor. grin


It is easy enough for we Australians....bloody Kiwis think we are their west island anyway, actually it is no different from moving to another state.
...but with worlds best hunting and fishing, and with all those uppy and downy thingys....hills I think they call them.


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I've experienced the same with my booking agency. Several of my outfitters were full or nearly full for 2013. In the last two weeks i've had a few cancellations (from self employed business owners) stating that the concern for 2013 and beyond is a bit much. In other words, they are sitting out 2013. I am not a "half empty" kind of guy but it does not feel good to get cancellations on otherwise "solid" clients.


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