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#7097540 - 11/21/12 07:08 PM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: 2muchgun]
2muchgun Offline
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Registered: 02/25/05
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Loc: Michigun
AA Forge is another that comes to mind......

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#7097545 - 11/21/12 07:09 PM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: 2muchgun]
SteveRandall Offline

Registered: 02/29/12
Posts: 33
Loc: Lincolnton, NC
How about the coffin handle bowie style knife. Some are made without guards or with very small guards so would work for the pouch type sheath.

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#7097553 - 11/21/12 07:13 PM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: 2muchgun]
2muchgun Offline
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Registered: 02/25/05
Posts: 13931
Loc: Michigun
Here's a customized Green River Ripper and a camp knife. They make some larger knives also.

Ground some finger grooves in this one and acid etched the blade:

Camp knife:

I've another camp knife blank. I'm going to put a finger groove in it and probably some American black walnut scales.....

#7097572 - 11/21/12 07:22 PM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: SteveRandall]
2muchgun Offline
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Registered: 02/25/05
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Loc: Michigun
Thought of that also. Some here:

#7097991 - 11/21/12 10:03 PM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: 2muchgun]
poboy Offline
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Registered: 05/16/10
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Loc: Central Texas
My main skinner is a Green River paring knife. Easy to keep sharp.

#7098332 - 11/22/12 12:01 AM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: Birdwatcher]
Campfire Outfitter

Registered: 06/17/07
Posts: 9518
Loc: Land of milk & honey, for some...
Just look on Ebay for an old I Wilson in good knick.

#7098555 - 11/22/12 01:05 AM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: JSTUART]
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Registered: 11/26/07
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This is a picture of my idea of a Bowie I made several years ago.

This one has a 10 inch blade and stag scales.

#7101313 - 11/22/12 08:27 PM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: Birdwatcher]
Journeyman Offline
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Registered: 11/18/03
Posts: 1547
In that style Daniel Winkler is the man. I've bought 2 as gifts for mountain man rendezvous-ist friends.

Winkler Knives

Mike Mann of Idaho Knife Works (his website appears to be down) is also well lauded for his period knives. I traded for one of his cliff knives once and while I didn't use it before re-trading, it appeared very well made.

#7111754 - 11/26/12 01:26 AM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: Journeyman]
Birdwatcher Offline
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Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 16249
Loc: San Antonio TX
Than for the input all cool

I was agreeing that for a simple, period-appropriate knife a Green River would be a no-brainer for the 1830's.

Maybe not as it turns out.

By September of 1834 Russell felt that he had the experience to commence manufacturing of knives. His first prototype knives were simple butcher and carving knives, but as with the chisels and axes, made from the finest raw materials available....

The early knives were stamped "J.Russell & Co American Cutlery." Although these knives had a local reputation for quality, most Americans of the time who were unfamiliar with the J. Russell Co. preferred knives from Sheffield...

By February 1836 Russell had purchased land and moved the factory to a location on the Green River (Massachusettes). The new location came complete with buildings, a dam and was set up for utilizing water power. The factory had barely been set up when on March 15, 1836 a fire burned out the forging shop and production was halted. Insurance paid out $4,000 for rebuilding the shop. The reconstruction had hardly commenced when a major flood swept away the dam and most of the buildings...

During the early 1840's was the beginning of the great westward movement of settlers to Oregon and California. J.Russell & Company began manufacturing a simple, rugged, utilitarian hunting knife for these emigrants and buffalo hunters of the plains. The knife, known as the "Green River Knife" was to be rugged enough to serve in any situation that might arise. These knives were often shipped unsharpened so that the individual owners could then sharpen according to need and use. The blade was about 8 inches in length with simple wooden handles. was this simple hunting knife, the "Green River Knife" which assured the success of the company, and was the source of the myth and legend of the Green River Knife. The Green River Knife became the source for various sayings and phrases related to quality and or doing a job right.

The Green River Knife became a favorite of emigrants, buffalo hunters, Indians, miners and settlers. Between 1840 to 1860 it is estimated that 60,000 dozen Green River knives were sent west.

So, there were a small number of Green River knives around before 1840, but production really started in a big way only after 1840, almost too late too for the fur trade era.

"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744

#7112220 - 11/26/12 02:59 AM Re: Opinions on blade design sought [Re: Birdwatcher]
348srfun Offline
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Registered: 01/12/09
Posts: 380
Loc: South East Georgia
I would go with an old flea market butcher knife. It should not be hard to find one with a worn and period looking handle and lots of life left in the blade. The curve of the point nicely fits the bottom of a peanut butter or mayonnaise jar too. If you are looking for a working knife it might as well work well.

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