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#7096786 - 11/21/12 .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk
vapodog Offline
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A friend asked me to make some of these for him.

What are the experiences with this combination.

Any and all experience is welcome.

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#7096861 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: vapodog]
bobnob17 Offline
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No elk here - and I am no gun writer - but that bullet does 2880 in a 24 inch barrel in my Zastava with .75 moa three-shot groups.

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#7096948 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: vapodog]
NTG Offline
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Well...it will do the job, especially if you're planning on a close shot. If you're going to be shooting longer distances I like a 140gr Accubond or a 150gr hornady interbond as they have higher bc (or some of the Barnes options). The combo of slower speed, and so-so bc with the 160 partitions will catch up to you if your shooting out past 300 yards or so. The partition will drop about 32" at 400 with about 1340 in energy, while a 140gr (bc of .495) will only drop about 26" with 1480 in energy for example. IMO the good ol' 270 hasn't ever been great with 160gr pills, generally speaking partitions are a good bullet. If you do some searching on the web or talk to others you'll also find that particular partition is often not all that accurate either in a .270...this may be that it's at the limits of stabilization abilities in the 1-10" twist 270. Just my 2 bits. Hope that helps.

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#7096950 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: bobnob17]
nsaqam Offline
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I'm sure it will work just fine but I just don't see the need for a 160 in the .270 when there are so many great 130 class bullets available.

The 130 TTSX at 3250 will cross the eyes of any elk.
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#7096982 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: nsaqam]
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I'd personally go with the 150, but there is not an elk alive that could tell the difference of 10 grains worth of bullet.Contrary to what most read and many post here,most elk are killed at less than 200 yards, in actuality ,most are less than100yards.

Load them up and let the guy go kill elk. I'm not a fan of these super duper light weight bullets
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#7096987 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: nsaqam]
Whttail_in_MT Offline
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Originally Posted By: nsaqam
The 130 TTSX at 3250 will cross the eyes of any elk.


But will it dot the tees?

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#7097010 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Whttail_in_MT]
UtahLefty Offline
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I've shot a number of elk with the 130 gr Hornady, and one with the old 140 TBBC. I don't think I'd go as high as 160 >> I'd stick to 140/150. smile

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#7097022 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: vapodog]
Mark R Dobrenski Offline
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Vapo-I absolutely love the 160 Noz out of a .270. I generally run R22 and accuracy is fantastic, speed very good (2800ish) and it will penetrate like a 200 out of a 300 mag. As for the twist comments I've not seen a 10 twist .270 that wouldn't shoot really well with it.

Very tough to beat and way underrated, oddly enough generally by those who've not used it...hard to believe but true... shocked

Dober


Edited by Mark R Dobrenski (11/21/12)
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#7097052 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
Mule Deer Offline
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Like a lot of Campfire threads, this one went a ways before somebody with real experience posted!
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#7097060 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Mule Deer]
Mark R Dobrenski Offline
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What were we talking about again.... grin

Dober
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#7097098 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
Mule Deer Offline
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Yep!

I may just have to load up some 160 Partitions in one of my .270's for next year. So far the 150 Partition has always done the job more than adequately, but I need to do my 160-grain homework so I can also comment from real experience....
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#7097131 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Mule Deer]
bsa1917hunter Offline
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John, why switch when the 150 works so well??? It's kind of like switching from a 160 to a 175gr. partiton in the 7mm rem mag isn't it....almost meaningless....
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#7097183 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: bsa1917hunter]
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"Why switch" indeed. BSA, one might question your loonyism for posing such a question. laugh

Happy Thanksgiving
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#7097189 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Big_Redhead]
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Originally Posted By: Big_Redhead
"Why switch" indeed. BSA, one might question your loonyism for posing such a question. laugh

Happy Thanksgiving


Thanks grin......Ugh.....I realize that now. Happy thanksgiving to you as well grin.....but think of it this way, when I switch to a heavier bullet that generally means I switch to a different rifle chambered for a slightly bigger cartridge blush laugh. See I'm still loony....Phew!! wink
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.


BSA

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#7097223 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: bsa1917hunter]
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Originally Posted By: bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted By: Big_Redhead
"Why switch" indeed. BSA, one might question your loonyism for posing such a question. laugh

Happy Thanksgiving


Thanks grin......Ugh.....I realize that now. Happy thanksgiving to you as well grin.....but think of it this way, when I switch to a heavier bullet that generally means I switch to a different rifle chambered for a slightly bigger cartridge blush laugh. See I'm still loony....Phew!! wink

That was close. He almost had you... laugh

DF

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#7097245 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Dirtfarmer]
bsa1917hunter Offline
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Quick thinking on my part, wasn't it grin. Guys, bottom line is poke them thru the right spot with just about any bullet and you have a dead elk...right:



This one was taken 3 days ago and any good bullet from a 270 would have sufficed....
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.


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#7097324 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: bsa1917hunter]
BobinNH Offline
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I have only seen them used on a couple of cow elk that looked much like bsa's...and looked over 3-4 more elk killed by them.But never used them myself. blush

Related question would be, if the jump from a 150 to a 160 in 270 has no utility,is this also true of the jump from a 180 to 200 gr in 30 caliber?

I mean there could be a difference in the location of the Partition and taper of jacket that makes them even tougher?...and that extra 10 gr of displaced metal has to go "somewhere",whether in extra shrapnel,or broader mushroom?

Just asking..... smile
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#7097346 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: bsa1917hunter]
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Originally Posted By: bsa1917hunter
Quick thinking on my part, wasn't it grin. Guys, bottom line is poke them thru the right spot with just about any bullet and you have a dead elk...right:


Dead yes, but I also like to drop them on the spot so I know where to find them, and so he doesn't wear the neighbor's tag instead of mine. That's why i shoot them where I do.
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#7097364 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Big_Redhead]
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It works antelope, moose, elk and deer.

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#7097584 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Dobetown]
vapodog Offline
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Thanks one and all for the feedback....I have no experience hunting elk with a .270 but don't believe it can be much different from using a 160 partition in a .280 Remington.....and while I'll reserve judgement about that specific bullet with only one experience, I'm not thrilled right now.

I think for my own future needs a bonded bullet will get the nod. That said there's enough support for the 150 grain bullets that I'll not look for more than that again

But my friend in New Mexico is getting 160 partitions for his .270 this time.

I'll email him this thread

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#7097643 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: vapodog]
Slenk Offline
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I've used 160 np on mule deer they work. I am dropping down to the 150np they shoot a little flatter.


Edited by Slenk (11/21/12)
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#7097710 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Slenk]
Mark R Dobrenski Offline
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According to my findings the 160 Noz drops 2.9" more @ 400 yds than the 150 Noz. Using Partitions for both, 2900 for the 150 and 2800 for the 160 which for both are real world to me.

Dober
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#7097922 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
bobnob17 Offline
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The 160 has an "ok" ballistic profile, in the order of .430 from memory. I think most anything above .400 is about all I need for hunting.

It's still going to shoot every bit as flat as a good 308 Win load using 150g bullets.

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#7097933 - 11/21/12 Re: .270 Winchester and the 160 partition for elk [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
Yukoner Offline
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I have used the 270 Win in various rifles since 1962. Have shot a pile of varmints and big game using everything from 90 gr Sierra HPs to 170 gr Speer RN bullets. It just plain works, on everything from groundhogs to grizzlies. The second largest moose I ever killed was taken at such a long distance I am embarrassed to tell anyone today. Let's just say I held a full body depth, from withers to brisket, over his back, and the game was over with a single 130 gr Winchester Silvertip launched by 62 gr of the old surplus H4831.

As well as my beloved 35, 9.3 and 375 rifles have done in filling freezers over the past 50 years, it is my very distinct impression that I have had more one shot kills with the 270 Win than any other cartridge, and 160 Partitions were responsible for no small number of them.

A ten inch twist barrel will handle the 160 just fine, and it shoots flat enough to kill big game out to 300 yd easily, with a dead on hold.

Ted

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