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#7073246 - 11/13/12 06:22 PM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: watch4bear]
cwh2 Offline
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Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 1982
Loc: Anchorage, AK
Here's atvalaska's pics... sorry for the delay.




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#7073513 - 11/13/12 07:35 PM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: Joel/AK]
UncleJake Offline
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Registered: 12/17/09
Posts: 918
Loc: Los Anchorage, AK
If you choose to wire it yourself, let me know. I can give you a few pointers or even possibly some help.

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#7074692 - 11/14/12 08:31 AM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: cwh2]
atvalaska Offline
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Registered: 01/13/10
Posts: 6789
Loc: 907novacancy
thanks for posting my pic's! that center window on the right side of the house is 5x8 and at 482 lbs was a cuss fest putting it in...the one above that is a 4x8 1/2 round that matches the 2x4 1/2 round in my stairwell tower...
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#7074782 - 11/14/12 09:04 AM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: atvalaska]
458 Lott Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 01/29/01
Posts: 13197
Loc: Conundrum, Alaska
~$50k

You might want to look into Arctic Fox http://arcticfoxsteelbuildings.com/



Their 30X40 toy box would make for a fine shop, but even though the steel building is $17k, by the time you add foundation, heating, insulation, roll up door, fabrication, electrical et al you'll be close to $50k. A buddy in the valley had a stick built shop and he said all said and done is right around $50k. You could certainly save some $ by doing all the work yourself, but I'd budget at least $30k for materials.

That's why I keep thinking if I do move the new house will have to have a shop, because I know I won't have the coin lying around to build one. I'm still looking for either the right house with a shop, or the right land to build on.
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#7075375 - 11/14/12 12:28 PM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: 458 Lott]
mattm2047 Offline
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Registered: 03/15/12
Posts: 70
Loc: Soldotna, AK
Originally Posted By: 458 Lott
~$50k

You might want to look into Arctic Fox http://arcticfoxsteelbuildings.com/



Their 30X40 toy box would make for a fine shop, but even though the steel building is $17k, by the time you add foundation, heating, insulation, roll up door, fabrication, electrical et al you'll be close to $50k. A buddy in the valley had a stick built shop and he said all said and done is right around $50k. You could certainly save some $ by doing all the work yourself, but I'd budget at least $30k for materials.

That's why I keep thinking if I do move the new house will have to have a shop, because I know I won't have the coin lying around to build one. I'm still looking for either the right house with a shop, or the right land to build on.

Nice shop!!!

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#7075629 - 11/14/12 01:52 PM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: atvalaska]
watch4bear Offline
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Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 19910
Loc: wasilla ak
really nice. I like the cultured stone.
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#7075984 - 11/14/12 03:53 PM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: watch4bear]
atvalaska Offline
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cool, its "foam"...fools everyone.... looks like the "shifts" soil i got here ..... wife wants me to do the stair well tower...of the house in it. http://www.genstoneproducts.com/simulated-stacked-stone-coronado
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#7076033 - 11/14/12 04:10 PM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: atvalaska]
watch4bear Offline
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Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 19910
Loc: wasilla ak
yep fooled me. Pic is too small to see the joints on the sill. looks good. smile
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#7097494 - 11/21/12 10:46 AM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: Joel/AK]
las Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 06/26/01
Posts: 12016
Loc: Kotzebue, AK
It's going to cost more than you have budgeted, take more time, and it won't be big enough... I can see I already need more space... noticed that before the slab was cured.... smile

I'm working on a 32X40 with 16 foot walls, heated slab, 2 garage doors (one 12X12), bathroom - sans bath. Had contractors do the slab, framing, siding, roof installation, ceiling drywall, and garage door insulation. Still need contractors to do the boiler (on hand) hook up - including gas line from the house hook-up. I'll probably have him do the basic PEX bathroom plumbing at the same time. Also need a contractor to blow in ceiling insulation. Those two jobs are gonna cost upwards of $7K, I think. Then I can finish the beast off myself, given time and money.

I still need to finish some of the outside trim and inside wiring, wall insulation, inside wall sheeting and finish, install ceiling lights (on hand), and Epoxy (on hand)seal the bathroom floor. I probably have nearly all the remaining wiring stuff I need. Do not have the rest of the insulation, nor interior wall coverings (I want to back the sheetrock with 1/2 inch plywood - but may forgo that...). Also there will be a partial loft over the bathroom and part of the garage space, with outside entry from the future greenhouse on the hill side, at the 8 foot wall level. I originally designed it with 14 foot walls, but had to go with 16 to get the greenhouse door to fit - cost me another $200 in materials, but probably saved more than that in labor just not having to cut the T-111.

I designed this to be fairly readily convertable to a complete house, or a couple rental apartments in the future if wished or necessary.

I've burned thru the original $75 K budget already, plus a few K out of pocket, doing as much of the work myself as I felt competent to do and had the time for. (Kinda hard when one is living 500 miles away at the time.... :)).

Outside, I still have a bit of retaining wall, backfill, a partial loft, and then a heated-slab attached greenhouse in the future. Also a couple of the house windows to install, as we need to replace those- they are 5X8's so aren't going to be cheap, either. But the garage is enclosed and usable right now, even if unheated.

If I don't die first, and if I can keep the wife employed, I'll get this thing done yet... It's been a decade in the planning and implementation so far, probably take another one to finish, financially. smile

That should give you an idea of what you are getting into, here, Joel... smile
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#7097599 - 11/21/12 11:30 AM Re: Shop building advice. [Re: las]
Orion2000 Offline
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Registered: 04/09/11
Posts: 1572
Loc: Central KY
Joel,

I can not help you with cost in AK. However, personal experience and that of others, build it as big as you can afford. You will not regret it.

I had a 30 x 70 ft shed built on the side of my barn to house / operate a portable sawmill. I thought 30 x 70 was HUGE. Then I started moving equipment into it. First the sawmill. Then the edger. A skidsteer, an offroad forklift, slab racks, infeed deck for the mill... and... next thing I know, I am out of space and still have stuff sitting outside...

Good luck on your project !
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