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I've used 160 np on mule deer they work. I am dropping down to the 150np they shoot a little flatter.

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According to my findings the 160 Noz drops 2.9" more @ 400 yds than the 150 Noz. Using Partitions for both, 2900 for the 150 and 2800 for the 160 which for both are real world to me.

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The 160 has an "ok" ballistic profile, in the order of .430 from memory. I think most anything above .400 is about all I need for hunting.

It's still going to shoot every bit as flat as a good 308 Win load using 150g bullets.

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I have used the 270 Win in various rifles since 1962. Have shot a pile of varmints and big game using everything from 90 gr Sierra HPs to 170 gr Speer RN bullets. It just plain works, on everything from groundhogs to grizzlies. The second largest moose I ever killed was taken at such a long distance I am embarrassed to tell anyone today. Let's just say I held a full body depth, from withers to brisket, over his back, and the game was over with a single 130 gr Winchester Silvertip launched by 62 gr of the old surplus H4831.

As well as my beloved 35, 9.3 and 375 rifles have done in filling freezers over the past 50 years, it is my very distinct impression that I have had more one shot kills with the 270 Win than any other cartridge, and 160 Partitions were responsible for no small number of them.

A ten inch twist barrel will handle the 160 just fine, and it shoots flat enough to kill big game out to 300 yd easily, with a dead on hold.

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If I were to stretch things, I'd not hesitate to sling a 140 AB or 150 BT on Elk. No doubt the 160s never let folks down.

They ever get a good line up of heavier .277 hunting bullets, twists might be bumped up.

I ran 150PTs at 2850, not a max fps load b/c of powder choice, but they will plow a mule deer end to end at 250-275 yds from neck to hind quarter wink

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I figure a 160 .277 bullet can do pretty much anything a 180 .308 bullet can do

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If anyone thinks 10 grains difference in bullet weight is going to make a difference, I invite them to pull a 40 gr 22RF bullet,cut it in 4 equal weight pieces( check with a scale to see if each piece is about the same), and then convince yourself that the little bitty piece of lead in your hand is realy going to mean much traveling at 2800 fps or so. Even in bullet construction, location of the partition, or jacket thickness


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Originally Posted by saddlesore
If anyone thinks 10 grains difference in bullet weight is going to make a difference, I invite them to pull a 40 gr 22RF bullet,cut it in 4 equal weight pieces( check with a scale to see if each piece is about the same), and then convince yourself that the little bitty piece of lead in your hand is realy going to mean much traveling at 2800 fps or so. Even in bullet construction, location of the partition, or jacket thickness


Aint you shooting 220 grain round noses out of a 30'06? you think that extra 20 grains is going to make a difference?

unlike most here I have used the 160 out of the 270 win on elk, and my dad has used that bullet for 20 or so years outta his..They work great.

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I would have thought the extra 10 grains becomes relevant when you are operating at the margins. Under ideal circumstances, a broadside shot under 200y with a clear aim, I am sure the extra 10 makes no diff.

But under less than ideal circumstances, maybe it might make some difference. I don't doubt it certainly can.

The extra momentum might only be relevant a small percentage of the time. But the same could easily be said of the slightly faster MV and better BC of the 150g bullet. How often does that make a difference? About the same percentage of occasions, I'll wager.

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The first time I knew they made the bullet was an article by Hal Swigget back in 1979. His son used them with great success for elk and black bear. All I know is the 160 NP is a great bullet in the 280 so can not see how it is any less great in the 277 diameter.

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I have used the 160 on about 10 or 12 head of Africa game. It penetrated very deeply. If you want more than a 130 then use the 160.



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Originally Posted by Mule Deer


I may just have to load up some 160 Partitions in one of my .270's for next year. So far the 150 Partition has always done the job more than adequately, but I need to do my 160-grain homework so I can also comment from real experience....


Well, I can't comment on the 160 either as I've never seen the need for using them (& don't plan on changing now) as the 150 has always worked well on elk & moose, giving complete penetration as often as not......yes, even on moose.

Here is a 150 that I did recover from an elk though.

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I'm sure it will work just fine but I just don't see the need for a 160 in the .270 when there are so many great 130 class bullets available.

The 130 TTSX at 3250 will cross the eyes of any elk.


I tend to agree with this. I believe JOC shot most of his elk w/ 130's

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Well I never shot an elk with them but I did kill two moose with them up in Newfoundland, my primary rifle got damaged in transit, so I used a 270 with said bullet. Elk is not going to be a problem, or anything else you have a mind to shoot with a 270 for that matter. Here is what you do, work up a load then go shoot a dozen elk over the next 10 or so years. Then decide if it works or not. Elk are made of Skin hair, meat and bone, not Chobham Armor.


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The 160 gr Partition is one bullet I have always wanted to try, just need to get a 270 Win so I can try it smile If I make a light practice load as well like a 130 gr going at 260 rem speeds it would be a great combo for hunting anything from small deer to moose for my wife as well.

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Originally Posted by Yukoner
I have used the 270 Win in various rifles since 1962. Have shot a pile of varmints and big game using everything from 90 gr Sierra HPs to 170 gr Speer RN bullets. It just plain works, on everything from groundhogs to grizzlies. The second largest moose I ever killed was taken at such a long distance I am embarrassed to tell anyone today. Let's just say I held a full body depth, from withers to brisket, over his back, and the game was over with a single 130 gr Winchester Silvertip launched by 62 gr of the old surplus H4831.

As well as my beloved 35, 9.3 and 375 rifles have done in filling freezers over the past 50 years, it is my very distinct impression that I have had more one shot kills with the 270 Win than any other cartridge, and 160 Partitions were responsible for no small number of them.

A ten inch twist barrel will handle the 160 just fine, and it shoots flat enough to kill big game out to 300 yd easily, with a dead on hold.

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when you ll have time we ll have to discuss about those 160 grainers now that there s two 270s at home.

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My only experience with a 270 win is a 130 grain TTSX on a large cow elk by my youngest son worked just fine, and partitions never are a bad place to be............

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I've got a bunch of 160 NP's and am presently in a shoot off with the 150 NP's with the Kimber 84L. The 150's run about 2800fps and the 160's around 2715fps. The BC's run .465 and .435 respectively.
Now I don't know if Nosler has changed the location of the 160gr partition, but that is more important than just the 10 extra grains folks are mentioning here. The last cross section I've seen shows more lead forward the partition in a 160 vs. a 150.
Mule Deer might have an update on that or someone may have a cross section to show.


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I haven't sectioned any in a few years, so dunno.

Based on some experience, however, I'll guess that a 160 Partition at 2800 or so will kill stuff (and probably just as well as a bunch of other bullets, in various calibers and weights) if one is put in the right place.


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I am shooting these old 160g NPTs in my 270 Win.

Doing 2800+ out of my 24 inch barrel, they shoot to exactly the same point of impact as the 150g SST doing 2900+ fps.

This gives me a premium BIG big game load and a more general purpose load as well at a much cheaper price.

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