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#7175887 - 12/12/12 05:08 PM Shotgun Fitting Question
300Takedown Offline
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Registered: 08/16/07
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Loc: Ocala, Florida
Good evening all.

I am looking at an old side by side double and trying to decide it its measurements are something that I can work with.

LOP is 13 3/4 and drop is 1 7/8 and 2 3/4. I have measured a couple of guns that I shoot better than any others and found LOP of 14 1/4 and drop of 1 5/8 and 2 3/8 on one and LOP of 14 1/8 and drop is 1 5/8 and 2 1/2 on the other.

That puts the prospective purchase at about 1/2" shorter LOP. about 1/4" more drop at the comb and 1/4" or so difference at the heel.

I don't know enough to know is differences like that are likely to be significant.

Another issue to stir into the pot is that I have been fighting a neck and back injury for a few years and my posture isn't what it should be. I am thinking that with the shorter LOP and longer drop numbers, shooting the prospective purchase would require me to stand up a little straighter. That might help me with the posture issue. If anybody cares to offer some advice along that line I'd sure appreciate it. Its easier to justify a medical expense at my house than another old shotgun!

Thanks for your help

Jim

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#7175906 - 12/12/12 05:13 PM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: 300Takedown]
MontanaCreekHunter Offline
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I am not a fitting expert, but in my opinion a shorter LOP is going to make you "hunch" into the gun more.

If it were me it would really depend on the gun and how much I felt I really wanted/needed it. Also if it was a gun I didn't mind having altered.


Edited by MontanaCreekHunter (12/12/12 05:13 PM)
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#7176030 - 12/12/12 05:35 PM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: 300Takedown]
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That is a tremendous amount of drop in such a short stock. Judging from the measurements of your other guns, I would think that when you mounted the new shotgun that you would be looking at the back of your thumb. This is a recipe for raising your head from the stock. You will also have much more perceived recoil from the new stock. Were it me, I would pass but that is your decision.

RS

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#7176092 - 12/12/12 05:52 PM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: RipSnort]
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Thanks gentlemen. That's just the kind of info I needed.

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#7176650 - 12/12/12 07:49 PM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: 300Takedown]
luv2safari Offline
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Registered: 12/31/06
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Actually, the excess drop is somewhat compensated by the short length of pull.

Short stocks will make you shoot high.

Lots of drop will make you shoot low.

These two factors compensate. But, nothing compensates for the thumb in your nose. grin
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#7177146 - 12/13/12 01:45 AM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: luv2safari]
battue Offline
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Registered: 01/11/07
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Loc: outside the burg
Those old boys had to shoot with their head up or use their chin as a cheek weld or they would see little but the back of the receiver. Most of those old crooked stock shotguns were noted for kicking like the proverbial mule.

Something to be said for shooting with the head more up, in that you look through the center of your eye instead of the top third. We don't walk around looking at things with our head tilted down proving the point. However excessive stock drop is not the best way to arrive at doing so.


Edited by battue (12/13/12 01:57 AM)
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#7179393 - 12/13/12 02:38 PM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: battue]
300Takedown Offline
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Registered: 08/16/07
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Loc: Ocala, Florida
I have an 1888 Gewehr that punches my thumb into my nose if I load it with 200 grain bullets. It does make it hard to follow through on the shot.

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#7181812 - 12/14/12 07:23 AM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: 300Takedown]
FredWillis Offline
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Registered: 02/07/09
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Loc: W. Oregon
Although it may sound like a phony reason to not buy a gun, shotguns should feel comfortable to the shooter. I've built several dozen over the years and those dimensions are not condusive to comfort. In other words, when a shotgun does not fit properly, you have to really work at trying to shoot it well.

Been there and done that and I would pass on any gun with those dimensions.

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#7183281 - 12/14/12 01:35 PM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: FredWillis]
Sixslug Offline
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Registered: 11/10/12
Posts: 94
Loc: Pacific Northwest
I have never been able to shoot the Browning BPS shotgun because it just dose not fit me, which is a drag since I shoot shoulder guns left handed and I liked the ambidexterity it affords, much like the Ithaca 37, which I love to shoot.

In your situation i would suggest shooting a box or two through it if possible and then consider a thickened recoil pad or spacer for the LOP and considering having it modified to fit. As for the drop, a good carpenter could raise that for you. A lot of messing around to get it right in my opinion.

In stock fitting 1/8" can seem like a mile....

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#7184027 - 12/14/12 04:47 PM Re: Shotgun Fitting Question [Re: Sixslug]
FredWillis Offline
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Registered: 02/07/09
Posts: 607
Loc: W. Oregon
Sixslug, I suggest you shoot a pattern board to see where the poi is. That will tell you a lot.

1. Is the BPS stock the same length as the other guns you shoot well?

2. Check to see if the BPS stock has any cast?

Did the BPS come with any shims to change heighth and cast?


Does the buttstock fit right with your shoulder when mounting the gun? The pitch could be wrong for you, which effects how the gun points.

Answer these questions and we will have a solution,I would think

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