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#7175488 - 12/12/12 50-90
303mike Offline
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I know it has been talked about before but how many like the .50-90? What bullets do you use?

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#7175533 - 12/12/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: 303mike]
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Pretty sure EthanEdwards has one may wanta pull on his chain for info.
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#7175595 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: FlyboyFlem]
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The 50-90 is not what it is cracked up to be. It doesn't have the reach of the various 45 calibers and for sure and certain doesn't kill as well as the 45-110 or 45-70, for that matter.

And yes, I have one and have owned several in the past.

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#7176131 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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Originally Posted By: sharpsguy
The 50-90 is not what it is cracked up to be. It doesn't have the reach of the various 45 calibers and for sure and certain doesn't kill as well as the 45-110 or 45-70, for that matter.

And yes, I have one and have owned several in the past.


I was gonna see if I could hire you to build me a 50-490. LOL

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#7176269 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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Sharpsguy, If you still have one then the .50-90 couldn't be all bad. Please tell me a little more.

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#7176503 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: 303mike]
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I haven't shot it in 4 or 5 years. I keep it as a reminder and to let people shoot it and see how it is lacking when compared to one of the 45s.

Mine has a 1-26 twist barrel and won't hit due east with a bullet lighter than 650 grains. Those heavy bullets really have a rainbow trajectory, and the rifle kicks. A lot. Contrary to what you might think, the 650 grain FN bullet does not knock animals down or kill as quickly as a good 45, nor does it penetrate as well . I went to Africa in 2009 with a friend, and carried my Shiloh 45-110 Business Rifle. He carried his scoped Shiloh No. 1 Sporter in 50-90 and was shooting 600 grain bullets. His experience was like mine with the 50-90 in that the rifle didn't exactly impress everyone with the way it worked. My 45-110, on the other hand,did a good job, and I wound up taking a springbok at a lasered 537 yards with it shooting a traditional 511 grain paper patched bullet.

Get one if you want, but don't say that you weren't warned when you wind up disappointed.

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#7176698 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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grinNow there is always the 44-90 BN whistle
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#7176816 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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Sharpsguy, Thanks for those extra details. My .50-90, however, is already on its way, so I might have to try some things with it.

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#7176942 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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Originally Posted By: sharpsguy

Mine has a 1-26 twist barrel and won't hit due east with a bullet lighter than 650 grains.


grin glad I ordered a .45-90 smile
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#7177267 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: tex_n_cal]
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Originally Posted By: tex_n_cal
Originally Posted By: sharpsguy

Mine has a 1-26 twist barrel and won't hit due east with a bullet lighter than 650 grains.


grin glad I ordered a .45-90 smile



grinYers will do real gud wid the same slug Sharpsguy uses. 500-540 grains kick ass in 45 caliber rifles. YOU saw whut a 450 grain PP slug will do, grin
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#7177288 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: 303mike]
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303mike--Since you are already in for a rough ride, I'll try to help you out. For openers, what kind of rifle is it and what is the twist and leade angle in your rifle?

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#7177643 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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Sharps, I'll have to dig that up. It's a C. Sharps rifle with a Badger barrel. More later.

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#7178010 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: 303mike]
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No need to look. If it is a C. Sharps, that Badger barrel will need a 650 grain bullet or better. The throat on the C. Sharps has a longer leade than the Shiloh.

Your best bet is to get a Saeco 583 50 caliber bullet, Starline cases, and some KIK 2f powder. Load 90 grains and light it off with a CCI BR2 primer, and use a thin wad cut from wax paper between the bullet and powder. Don't even fool with the lighter 450 to 540 grain grease groove bullets as you are just wasting your time. If this 650 grain Saeco bullet doesn't shoot--and it is the only bullet I have found that will shoot in my rifle--your only other option is to get Steve Brooks to make you an adjustable paper patch mold. Then the grand experiment will start, and you are going to be frustrated and wadded up chasing your tail for at least a year and probably two before you decide to rebarrel the rifle to a 45. BTDT. Good luck.

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#7178073 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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I used to want a Big .50 too. wink

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#7178097 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: gunner500]
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Some BPCR rifles and chamberings are cool.

Some are practical

A few are both.

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#7178191 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: Paul39]
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Sharps, Thanks for the info. I'm going to start with the standard .50-70 bullet just because that's what I already have. When some fireformed cases are then made available, I'll give some paper patched bullets a try. Paper patch is what I really want to shoot. Rebarreling? No. Another rifle? Could be...

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#7178695 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: 303mike]
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I knew it.

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#7179029 - 12/13/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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Ah, have you been there before?

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#7181839 - 12/14/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: 303mike]
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There is a guy who shoots a 50-90 at long range - 800, 900 and 1000 yards. This year he won both shoots. He has also shot it a couple of times at silhouette and done well.
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#7182033 - 12/14/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: mtnfisher]
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Thanks for the note, Fisher, I'd like to try doing some shooting at those longer ranges. Something I simply haven't done. Of course, if he has any hints to share...

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#7182230 - 12/14/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: 303mike]
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The next time I talk to him (it may be a while), I'll see what I can find out.
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#7182311 - 12/14/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: mtnfisher]
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Thanks again, Fisher, and there's no hurry. I'm in this one for the long term and what I'm mainly interested in at this time is some good leads on which bullets to use. I certainly appreciate the help from all on this site.

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#7182513 - 12/14/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: sharpsguy]
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Originally Posted By: sharpsguy
I knew it.


Ya' can lead em' to water,.....
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#7182760 - 12/14/12 Re: 50-90 [Re: crossfireoops]
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Originally Posted By: crossfireoops
Originally Posted By: sharpsguy
I knew it.


Ya' can lead em' to water,.....


Yup, but ya' can't make'em think! I've heard that before. True too!!

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