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#7173180 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: GTN]
163bc Offline
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I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.

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#7173200 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 163bc]
300MAG Offline
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Run the Jewell & don't look back!!

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#7173455 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 163bc]
ldholton Offline
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Loc: lawrence county MO
Originally Posted By: 163bc
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.
hows that mark-x at 2 oz. ? safe ? hold sear on a bolt slam ?

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#7174244 - 12/12/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 163bc]
Dirtfarmer Offline
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Loc: Central Louisiana
Originally Posted By: 163bc
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.

You'll love it until that MIM trigger gets broken... frown

I've never seen photos of the old machined steel M-700 triggers, snapped off by UPS, etc. Maybe bent, never broken.

DF

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#7175706 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: ldholton]
Ackleyfan Offline
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Originally Posted By: ldholton
Originally Posted By: 163bc
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.
hows that mark-x at 2 oz. ? safe ? hold sear on a bolt slam ?


grin I've played with them all except for a Timney and I can't imagine what you would have to do to them to get them to feel like a Jewell, even at the same pull weight the Jewell has a much better feel!

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#7176074 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Ackleyfan]
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Originally Posted By: Ackleyfan
Originally Posted By: ldholton
Originally Posted By: 163bc
I have all of em. Best one is the new Remington Mark -X tuned by Neil Jones. Every bit as good or better than any aftermarket including Jewell.
hows that mark-x at 2 oz. ? safe ? hold sear on a bolt slam ?


grin I've played with them all except for a Timney and I can't imagine what you would have to do to them to get them to feel like a Jewell, even at the same pull weight the Jewell has a much better feel!

None are in the same class as the Jewell, IMHO.

To claim otherwise is strange, indeed.

DF

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#7176393 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Dirtfarmer]
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I've used Jewell triggers in the past. They are no doubt great triggers, if you want a pull measured in ounces.

Anytime I want a pull of 1.5# or greater I'll take a Timney over the Jewell. For hunting I much prefer Timney.......
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#7176570 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 406_SBC]
Dirtfarmer Offline
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Loc: Central Louisiana
The Jewell is wasted on a heavier trigger pull.

There are a bunch of much less expensive options for such applications. And with that, I agree with you.

DF

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#7176587 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 406_SBC]
rockchuck828 Offline
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Originally Posted By: 406_SBC
I've used Jewell triggers in the past. They are no doubt great triggers, if you want a pull measured in ounces.

Anytime I want a pull of 1.5# or greater I'll take a Timney over the Jewell. For hunting I much prefer Timney.......


The OP is talking about a Remington, the jewell is superior in every way to a Timney for a Remington or Winchester, the only time Timney is the CHOICE is when there is no other aftermarket trigger.......LOVE my Timney Sako trigger's !!!

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#7176599 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Dirtfarmer]
JimHundley Offline
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IMO, a Jewell doesn't become a "Jewell" until 2 1/2 lbs. and under. The one I have on a hunting rifle had a decernable "hitch" until I adjusted it to two pounds. The one on my bench rifle is set for 2 oz. Very nice !

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#7176637 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: JimHundley]
Dirtfarmer Offline
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Agree with you, Jim.

It seems to me that the Jewell seems more manageable, set light, than the others. A Timney at a pound can feel a bit scary, at least to me. Not so with a Jewell.

DF

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#7176729 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: woodson]
JSTUART Offline
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Originally Posted By: woodson
I've been gathering components for a fast twist 243 since June. SA700 SS is enroute (thanks Raghorn), Micky Edge MR handle, Rock #2 1-8 twist, Ptg BM, and Holland RL. She will be topped with a VX3 2.5x8-36. Last part I need is a trigger. Timney for like $130 vs Jewell for like $230. Now I realize being cheap and custom rifles don't go together. That said, is the Jewell REALLY worth the extra 100 clams??

I've been spamming our classifieds for a "stainless" unit with bolt release and safety (RH) with no luck. Anyone have one they're willing to part with?


If you are after accuracy and have an educated finger then Jewell is the only way, if you have a sporting rifle and your knuckles drag on the ground and/or you are shooting in the cold then Timney is your best bet.


ps, I believe that Arnold is to be cannonised next year.

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#7176783 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Dirtfarmer]
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For a medium-light pull of 1-2 pounds the Jewell is great, and I would probably choose it over a tuned 700, Timney or Shilen. For a 2-3 pound pull any will do fine.

Under a pound and I like the Jard a lot. Have them on a Remington 700 Classic .221 Fireball and a benchrest 6mm PPC. Very fine triggers.
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#7177007 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Mule Deer]
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I run Jewell's, but have had some OEM 700s, esp the older guns, which have lighter springs, that worked well, though had one that was prone to ADs, so, you may 'Roll the dice' w/a factory trigger.

Hear good things on Shilen. Had a Timney on Swedish Mausers, huge improvement, but not great, but that's just MY ltd experience. On Ruger #1's, the Kepplinger is UNREAL, an expensive albeit worthy investment.

Sounds like running a 2 contour, you want a hunting trigger from 2-3#, I agree w/above, all can give good service. Whether a premium is justified paying for a Jewell is subjective, in this scenario (2-3#).
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#7177120 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 65BR]
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I went Timney, my rifle is for the field/hunting, heard from a smith I respect that he has seen Jewell's jam up with dust and dirt from regular use.

Like the Timney.

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#7177173 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: JSTUART]
ColdBore Offline
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Registered: 01/05/05
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Originally Posted By: JSTUART
...and have an educated finger...


You bring up the point that bothers me the most about a Jewell.

The too-narrow trigger itself.

And yes, my trigger finger is quite well-educated.

I like my finger to be able to feel a trigger before I apply pressure. The thinness and shape of the Jewell just doesn't work for me, especially on a hunting rifle.

I have a few on target/groundhog rifles, but no way would I put one on a big game rifle.

Another point... their strong suit is when you need a trigger pull measured in ounces. For a 2-3 pound pull, I can't think of why you'd need a Jewell.

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#7177581 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: 65BR]
Dirtfarmer Offline
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Loc: Central Louisiana
Originally Posted By: 65BR
On Ruger #1's, the Kepplinger is UNREAL, an expensive albeit worthy investment.

I agree 100%. The price has gone up since I fitted my .220 Swift #1 with the Kepplinger. It is a fine piece of machinery, no doubt.

DF

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#7178555 - 12/13/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: woodson]
Eremicus Offline
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Registered: 03/01/01
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Loc: Placerville,CA,USA
No experience with Jewell triggers, but I've done several others. I don't like the Timney because the ones I've seen on other rifles and the one I had wouldn't stay put. After a while, they'd develop some creep. My Rifle Basic did that once and settled down. The rebuilt Remington I had was a dream that never changed. All of these were 2 1/4, to 2 3/4 lb. triggers.
For putting up with dust and crude, nothing beats the open designs like the old, pre-64, M70 or the tang safety Ruger.
That unreliable Timney got replaced by an Alaskan Arms M70 on my custom Mauser. Now there is a nice setup. E

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#7180389 - 12/14/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: ColdBore]
Mule Deer Offline
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Registered: 07/24/01
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Loc: Banana Belt, Montana
There's another thread about trigger shoes. You might try one.
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#7180447 - 12/14/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Mule Deer]
Steelhead Offline
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I've only played with 1 Jard trigger. I think I still have pieces of it in a box in my toy room. A 3 pound hammer insured I was never tempted to use it again.
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#7180543 - 12/14/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Steelhead]
Dirtfarmer Offline
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Registered: 11/28/10
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Loc: Central Louisiana
Originally Posted By: Steelhead
I've only played with 1 Jard trigger. I think I still have pieces of it in a box in my toy room. A 3 pound hammer insured I was never tempted to use it again.

WOW!

You musta been some kinda mad or that Jard musta been some kinda bad... shocked

DF

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#7184473 - 12/15/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Steelhead]
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Registered: 12/23/05
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Loc: Park Rapids, MN
Originally Posted By: Steelhead
I've only played with 1 Jard trigger. I think I still have pieces of it in a box in my toy room. A 3 pound hammer insured I was never tempted to use it again.


I had the same experience!

Jewells are a great trigger

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#7184797 - 12/15/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: Dirtfarmer]
rainierrifleco Offline
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Registered: 01/03/12
Posts: 2664
Loc: Gig Harbor WA/SE Neb
timney makes great trigers and has the best service going. i have more timneys than jewel and shelin combined but you wont ever beat the 4 lever jewell design. they are the best....but unless you really need a super light triger timney works flawless

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#7190727 - 12/16/12 Re: Jewell vs timney? [Re: rainierrifleco]
woodson Offline
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Registered: 04/28/04
Posts: 2219
Loc: Maryland
I ended up buying a Timney off their website, nickel with RH safety preset at 1.5 lbs. Saved a few bucks over the Jewell.

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