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#7174989 - 12/12/12 Trigger Shoes
Mako25 Offline
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Seen several, never owned a rifle with one.

What are their supposed benefit/purpose?

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#7175099 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
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I have used them from time to time. A shoe makes the finger contact surface wider. The wider surface amakes it feel like the trigger pull is lighter, though it's really not. The shoe may make the trigger wide enough that it protrudes out past the edges of the trigger guard. The first part, I like; the second part, not so much...

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#7175117 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: bearbacker]
Mako25 Offline
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hmmmmmm

Could be to mask a heavy trigger then.

If a trigger is "light" already, I see no advantage. In fact, I've spent good money on Mausers to have the trigger guard and trigger narrowed.

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The shoe may make the trigger wide enough that it protrudes out past the edges of the trigger guard.


I'm with ya - wouldn't care for that.

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#7175146 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
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I had one on a target grade 22 rifle that I liked & one on a S&W revolver that I didn't like.


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#7175160 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: 6mm250]
Mako25 Offline
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How was the target rifle's trigger without the shoe? (assumption, I know)

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#7175188 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
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I don't know , I never shot it without the shoe. It was a Mossberg 144 LS , it had the shoe on it when I bought it & I never took it off. Good shooting rifle , but I sold it.


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#7175194 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
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I used to have them on a couple of rifles. My gunsmith convinced me that they are a less than satisfactory solution to what is basically a trigger pull problem. Haven't used one in years.
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#7175228 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: mudhen]
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Some people really like them. I'm pretty much indifferent, especially since they can make taking a barreled action of out the stock a more complicated job.

A few of the used rifles I've purchased over the years have come with trigger shoes. Eventually I had a minor collection, and a shooter who really likes trigger shoes bought 'em all.
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#7175277 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: mudhen]
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I used to have them on a couple of rifles. My gunsmith convinced me that they are a less than satisfactory solution to what is basically a trigger pull problem. Haven't used one in years.


Thanks.

Somethin' just dawned on me. Every rifle I've seen with one, is an older rifle.

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#7175285 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mule Deer]
Mako25 Offline
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...... they can make taking a barreled action of out the stock a more complicated job


Didn't think of that!

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#7175316 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
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Originally Posted By: Mako25
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I used to have them on a couple of rifles. My gunsmith convinced me that they are a less than satisfactory solution to what is basically a trigger pull problem. Haven't used one in years.


Thanks.

Somethin' just dawned on me. Every rifle I've seen with one, is an older rifle.


That's because they were just a cheap solution to avoid a trigger job. In years past folks "made do" with stuff like trigger shoes. Nowadays folks that have a trigger they don't like are more likely to have a trigger job done.

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#7175483 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
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Originally Posted By: Mako25
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...... they can make taking a barreled action of out the stock a more complicated job


Didn't think of that!




Yeah. A whole (two) allen screws to loosen. real tough.

Personally, I like the 'feel' of a wide, serrated shoe. And have them on most of my guns.
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#7175519 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
mudhen Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mako25


Somethin' just dawned on me. Every rifle I've seen with one, is an older rifle.
Yeah, they were a bit of a fad back in the 1960s and early 1970s.
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#7175526 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
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Used a couple but found them uncomfortable, I much prefer a narrow trigger face.

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#7175532 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: JSTUART]
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I like one on my Citori.
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#7175562 - 12/12/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
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I suppose the ultimate authority on the topic would be Roy Rogers's blacksmith, but I doubt that he is still around. (Maybe Roy had him stuffed, too.)
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#7175617 - 12/13/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: 5sdad]
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I suppose the ultimate authority on the topic would be Roy Rogers's blacksmith, but I doubt that he is still around. (Maybe Roy had him stuffed, too.)


*slaps forehead*

Trigger's shoes? grin

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#7175628 - 12/13/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: 5sdad]
stantdm Offline
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I have a Canjar trigger on one of my rifles. Its the set trigger model and has a wide shoe. I don't notice any difference shooting it, when not using the set trigger feature, to any other of the rifles I have.

JB notes removing it from a barreled action and that is true.

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#7175785 - 12/13/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: huntsman22]
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Originally Posted By: huntsman22

Personally, I like the 'feel' of a wide, serrated shoe. And have them on most of my guns.

huntsman22;
I hope that this finds you doing acceptably well thus far into December sir.

I'm with you in that I simply like the feel of a wider trigger and like you I'm running them on most of our firearms with the exception of a double action revolver.

As far as it making up for the lack of a trigger job I can't really comment on other's firearms, but since I've worked over the the triggers on most of our guns here I'm at least one exception to that.

Then again I like how Monte Carlo stocks fit me too and that seems to be a '60's thing now gone out of fashion as well.

Anyway huntsman, there is at least one more shooter in the world that likes the feel of a wider trigger - even if I am a Canuck. wink laugh

All the best to you this Christmas Season huntsman.

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#7176397 - 12/13/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: BC30cal]
ipopum Offline
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I had a trigger shoe in my junk box. Bought a rifle that was just a might to heavy. Put the shoe on it and am shooting it that way and like it. Found another somewhere and bought it in case I find a need for it. They feel right on some triggers.

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#7176441 - 12/13/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: BC30cal]
Mako25 Offline
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I'm running them on most of our firearms


I'll be. Seen (and admired) photo's of several of the rifles you've worked on -- some, nearly created -- but never noticed a trigger shoe.

Even the ones you built for the girls?

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#7176482 - 12/13/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: Mako25]
teal Offline
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I've never had the wider shoe so much but I've always really liked the ability to move it north and south on the Citori's I've had.

I know it's not much and is probably completely a mental gymnastics thing but I've wished I had that set up on my rifles.

Get a comfortable hold on the stock regarding the arm angle but make the trigger go out far enough that it's just the tip of my finger on the trigger.

Hard to explain, I guess it allows me to open and close the grip on the stock without replacing it - at my whim. So to speak.


Edited by teal (12/13/12)
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#7176538 - 12/13/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: teal]
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I have no experience with a trigger shoe on a rifle. I do know of two accidental discharges with trigger shoes on revolvers. It seems that a trigger shoe that is wider than the trigger guard can catch on a holster with disconcerting results. I know one guy in particular who has a scar on his calf from a bullet that penetrated his holster.
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#7176558 - 12/13/12 Re: Trigger Shoes [Re: huntsman22]
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Originally Posted By: huntsman22
Originally Posted By: Mako25
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...... they can make taking a barreled action of out the stock a more complicated job


Didn't think of that!




Yeah. A whole (two) allen screws to loosen. real tough.

Personally, I like the 'feel' of a wide, serrated shoe. And have them on most of my guns.


I like mine ! It is installed on a Jewell set at two pounds. Could be wrong, but I think it distributes the pressure over a wider area thus making for a smoother pull. As stated, it might be "in my mind".

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