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#7219634 - 12/23/12 01:05 PM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: evanhill]
DanAdair Offline
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I want one...

I really like my UL5200, but it had to stay home when I went into The Bob for 8 days.

Big trips, I really need a 6500 inch pack. Or I gotta quit eating, and not take clothes.
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#7219638 - 12/23/12 01:06 PM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: DanAdair]
DanAdair Offline
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But my opinion on the Bikini Duplex is the same of the UL 5200. Good looking pack, but it needs more compression straps.

Or they could just change the Kifaru logo to a muffin
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#7220097 - 12/23/12 03:25 PM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: DanAdair]
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Registered: 04/15/10
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Loc: Western Colorado
I like compressin systems like the Epic. I do think with improved stays it will carry a larger load well, though I would like to see an extra compressin strap and larger webbing. I have basically gifted the Epic to Owen (my son) and he uses it all the time. I had to get him a smaller belt. My most used pack this year was a ULA ohm 2.0 with a modified frame. I have carried 75 in it, but really I consider it a 50 to 60 lb pack due to belt slippage. Combined with a couple custom made add ons it is the most efficient wilderness carry system I know of. It's a bit small 3900 , but measured 3000 but I did use it on the early spring crossing of part of the San Juans ( 25 to 30 miles, mostly snow, much above tree line) with snow shoes, ice axe, BCS and prototype sibling stove. I also used it on one weekend BP hunt. I didn't plan to carry out a whole animal though. My plan, if I had gotten something was to put camp gear in a dry sack attached to the outside, and meat inside then come back with a Kelty cache hauler for the big load. I really like the cache hauler for large loads, in fact I like it much more than a Dana external frame. I don't like 3 piece belts though, so perhaps I am in the minority. My twener pack is an Osprey vector series, that while long in the tooth is excellent for loads to 80 ( though I've carried over 100 with it). I do believe if Osprey still made the vector series it would be on everyone's radar for BP hunting .

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#7223010 - 12/24/12 11:20 AM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: ken999]
Eremicus Offline
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Registered: 03/01/01
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Loc: Placerville,CA,USA
Thanks Ken. I'm delighted to see the new design still uses the upper and lower delta straps. What has always impressed me about Kifaru packs was how well they locked into the hips and base of the spine. For carrying loads, especially off trail, side hilling, etc. that makes a huge difference.
I'm giving away my Mtn. Hardware pack because it doesn't fit any where nearly as well when carrying a load. My Kifaru Late Season does alot better with the same or a heavier load. E

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#7223770 - 12/24/12 03:16 PM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: Eremicus]
SeanD Offline
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Registered: 03/16/01
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Loc: Tigard OR
Very happy i put off the T1 purchase. This new duplex is pretty sweet.
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#7223787 - 12/24/12 03:20 PM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: Eremicus]
Sancho_Maes Offline
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Registered: 03/13/11
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Loc: Colorado
"Good looking pack, but it needs more compression straps."
This pack does not need any additional compression straps from where it is at now. The new bag already has enough straps to scrunch it down very well and use it as a day pack.






I used the High Camp and Bikini frame this morning for a little cardio. I had the bag stuffed up with clothes, blamkets and water bottles to a total weight of around fifty pounds.

I have carried several of the Kifaru packs and I believe they have a good hit here. They will sell several new pakcs and even more bikini frames. This is going to be a excellent mix between say the standard timberline with just stays in it and the Duplex frame.
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#7228997 - 12/26/12 09:16 AM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: Sancho_Maes]
RockChucker30 Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
Posts: 659
Loc: Tennessee
I've had the Longhunter and a T1, and I imagine this pack will sell well. I won't have one though. I'm moving from Kifaru packs and will likely try a McHale next.

The problem I have is three piece belts feel great with 50 lbs, but with packout loads of 70-110lbs the lumbar pad slides down my back and the belt digs into my hips in a bad way.

I had this problem with the LH, the T1, and more recently with a Dana T1 loaded with 100 lbs sandbags.

I'm hoping that a full wrap belt will fit my body shape a bit better than the three piece.

I agree with a few folks above on the hauler setup. I think it would be very versatile and useable, if well done.
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#7229053 - 12/26/12 09:34 AM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: RockChucker30]
Take_a_knee Offline
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Registered: 09/10/09
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Originally Posted By: RockChucker30


The problem I have is three piece belts feel great with 50 lbs, but with packout loads of 70-110lbs the lumbar pad slides down my back and the belt digs into my hips in a bad way.


Barbell squats, heavy ones, might be the answer for you, rather than another piece of kit. Developing your glutes, or "growing an ass" will give the belt somewhere to sit. Find a coach, and or buy Rippetoe's book, Starting Strength.


Edited by Take_a_knee (12/26/12 09:35 AM)
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#7229068 - 12/26/12 09:38 AM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: Take_a_knee]
RockChucker30 Offline
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Loc: Tennessee
Originally Posted By: Take_a_knee

Barbell squats, heavy ones, might be the answer for you, rather than another piece of kit. Developing your glutes, or "growing an ass" will give the belt somewhere to sit. Find a coach, and or buy Rippetoe's book, Starting Strength.


That's not the problem. Curvy upper back and flat lumbar is the problem. I'm hoping a good full wrap belt is the solution.
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#7229090 - 12/26/12 09:44 AM Re: New Kifaru's... [Re: RockChucker30]
Eremicus Offline
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Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 18881
Loc: Placerville,CA,USA
You try talking to Kifaru about that. They might be able to help you with a modified pack suspension. E

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