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#7223129 - 12/24/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: the_shootist]
wabigoon Offline
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The Reisings had the wire stock. They used the ACP round as well.
You pay for the ammo, and I'll have fun with a Thompson.
For the most part, after artillerty training, my curiosity in regards to noise, flash, and smoke, has been pretty much sasified.
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#7223357 - 12/24/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: the_shootist]
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Yeah, this one had wood too. Apparently this one was made in 1927 or so if that sounds right.


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#7223907 - 12/24/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: Westcoaster]
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I think Thompson called it the 1927A1 or some such, regardless of the year of manufacture. At any rate, a great firearm, and a bit of history as well.
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#7223918 - 12/25/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: wabigoon]
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You pay for the ammo, and I'll have fun with a Thompson.


It'd be reloads if I was responsible for the cost.
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#7224052 - 12/25/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: the_shootist]
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As I say about many of them, I'd rather be behind, than in front of them.
Sort of a moot issue, given the price,and restrictions on a Thompson. Unless that is, you have one stashed away somewhere.
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#7235474 - 12/28/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: CanuckShooter]
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#7235689 - 12/28/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: CanuckShooter]
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Originally Posted By: CanuckShooter
I think we should all own and keep assault weapons at home, hopefully once they get banned in the usa the supply up here will be enhanced a little. ;-) With all that is going on in our world it's just a matter of time before the next big war breaks out, if it ever comes to my neighborhood I'd prefer to have a weapon and not just a hunting rifle.

Any thoughts?


Don't worry about the USA.
You'll have your own problems with the Justin Trudeau led Liberals back in 2015.
America always sorts its shyt out.
Bans have been tried in America and they failed every time.
I'd be more concerned about that long and growing "prohibited" firearms list in Canada if I were you.
Harper pulling the rug out from under the firearms advisory committee a few weeks ago isn't a good sign of good things to come for Canadian gun owners.
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#7236032 - 12/28/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: the_shootist]
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Damn fellas, I knew the laws were bad up there but I had no idea they were that bad

Any one of you guys ever head down to Tennessee or Mississippi, shoot me a PM....we can take my FN FAL out and do some damage smile
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#7236619 - 12/28/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: Boococky]
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I think my brother has an FN of some sort -- probably a C1A1. We used the old FN in semi auto configuration (C1A1) as our main battle rifle on the police force for quite a number of years before it was replaced by a Ruger Mini-14. What a poor trade that was -- lighter in more ways than one.
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#7237286 - 12/28/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: Boococky]
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Originally Posted By: Boococky
Damn fellas, I knew the laws were bad up there but I had no idea they were that bad

Any one of you guys ever head down to Tennessee or Mississippi, shoot me a PM....we can take my FN FAL out and do some damage smile


Assault rifles will be banned in Canada before they are banned in the USA.
I don't envy Canadian gun owners once heir apparent to the Canadian throne Trudeau Jr. moves into the big house on Sussex Drive.
The Canadian Anti-gun Witch of the North Wendy Cukier makes Dianne Feinstein look like Annie Oakley and her & Trudeau Jr. will get along really well.
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#7237341 - 12/28/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: pricedo]
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Cukier and Feinstein have something other than their aversion to private ownership of guns in common and many, if not most of the rabid "gun banners" share this with them.

It is a most disturbing aspect of contemporary North American life that this particular small minority has such enormous and enduring influence on US and, now, on Canadian political policies, domestic and foreign.

I just saw Cukier on TV a couple days before Christmas and what I noticed were her eyes, hard, cold and brutal. She and Allan Rock, the former Canadian "Justice Minister", have exactly the same cold, cruel and arrogant eyes.....they look exactly like old photos of Reichs Fuhrer Reinhardt "Hangman" Heydrich, the "No. 2" man in Himmler's Gestapo.

Look for yourself, the resemblance is just eerie and VERY disconcerting.

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#7238101 - 12/29/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: kutenay]
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Kute: It is called a "soul-less" hatered for anyone who is in opposition thier agenda.

I saw this look while serving in the former Yugo as a Peacekeeper. As a Medic, obligated to help anyone regardless of politics, many times I was placed between opposing clans and I remember that look.Very disturbing and yes, we now see it directed towards ourselves by supposed fellow Canadians. Not a good scene at all.

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#7238129 - 12/29/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: troutfly]
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True, but, that is not what I had in mind and the issue is becoming one of great difficulty for Canada and our traditional policies/allies as our PM's behaviour makes all too apparent.

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#7238487 - 12/29/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: kutenay]
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I meant the cold look in thier eyes was the same as your examples as well as where I had seen it. Pure comparison is all.
Way beyond normal politics.

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#7238583 - 12/29/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: troutfly]
kutenay Offline
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Fascist psychopaths, simple as that. They are RIGHT, everyone else is wrong and they KNOW what is "best" for all of us......much like Adolph Hitler, who also had the hard, cold, stare...........

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#7239244 - 12/29/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: kutenay]
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Dammit Kute, why da Hell do ya always have to post things I agree with so strongly??? Whether it is you Canuckians or us guys down here, Free,honest and repsonsible folks should have these guns at their disposal. We do as gunners have an unspoken responsibilty to weed the mad dogs from our ranks. So,as much as I love teasing the daylights out of you guys and occasionally getting pissed off when I detect too much British influence we are actually the best friends either country is likely to see. The real enemy for us all is government power run amok. The tools to end that must be ours.
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#7239628 - 12/29/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: EvilTwin]
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It is the decline in REAL ...British influence..., here in Canada and in "The Old Commonwealth", i.e. Australia and New Zealand, that IS our major problem.....which, btw, was/is the crux of my point here.

The perversions wrought upon our British parliamentary government and constitutional monarchy, are MOST obvious where firearms issues are concerned, however, there are other, deeper and even more insidious forces now attacking Canada, some of "cultural" and others of economic type and they ARE winning.

The entire "Official Multiculturalism" and "Human Rights Commission" mess is the most obvious problem, but, the constant attacks upon our British-based and once-proud culture, are even more destructive and these largely are in our (laff,laff) "education system" and corporate media. The latter is largely owned and controlled by the same group that the "gun grabbers" draw so many members from.

...detect too much British influence..., why, would the internal, cultural mores of a foreign nation concern you, given that Canada, is hardly a military threat to the USA? This, is an issue about Americans, that has always puzzled me, but, as you say, the ties of friendship are strong and we certainly agree on the whole ...government power... point.

The initial thing I would love to see is the government enacting legislation to prevent the corporate ownership of large sections of Canadian mass media. This, is one MAJOR problem in this country and it should not be allowed.

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#7241568 - 12/29/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: kutenay]
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as far as assault weapons"....

im still struggling to figure out what "weapon" i couldnt commit an "assault" with
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#7241888 - 12/30/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: SAKO75]
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SAKO75;
I hope this finds you and yours acceptably well this last Saturday in December '12.

Your comment is of course exactly on point and succinctly shows the problematic approach that is typical of those who wish to ban tools.

I recall vividly having a conversation decades ago with an RCMP Constable when we were having FN FAL's go on the restricted list. I suggested to him that there was no logical reason for what was essentially the beginning of a ban on them.

He replied that if someone pointed an FN FAL at him, he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a semi-auto version which we were speaking of or a full auto capable version that was already prohibited here.

When I heard that particular line of flawed logic, I responded my saying that if someone pointed a single shot Cooey .22 at me he had my undivided attention and that wouldn't change one iota regardless of the color of the rifle being pointed at me.

Anyway I'm not sure I changed anyone's mind that day, but the Constable did concede that he really wasn't keen on being shot with anything either.

To my way of thinking, those who wish to ban tools - guns in this case - find it easier to do if they can compartmentalize certain tools and then give them labels which might frighten the uninformed and uneducated.

I actually was plowing out my neighbor's driveway a day or two back and got into this discussion with them. They are nice enough folks, but certainly would be considered politically much to the left of where I stand......of course I'm a wee bit right of Attila the Hun. wink

Anyway they were all for banning this and that tool and finally admitted that they'd like all guns banned. I pointed out that for instance Mexico currently had a ban in place and it didn't take a lot of research to see how wonderfully that was working out for them.

I also pointed out how armed the Finns and the Swiss are - my take and opinion being that either here or in your homeland, any issues with violence and tools are emphatically not tool issues.

Anyway sir, I am cognizant that I'm preaching to the proverbial choir here, but this is only to let you know that I do preach to the congregation and the people on the streets as well.

Lastly, according to my faulty memory of assault stats here in Canada, knives and assorted clubs were used many fold more times than any firearms. Again, it's not a tool issue we have here - it's a deep rooted societal cancer that some would rather treat with some cough syrup than the chemo we need.

On a cheerier note, I do hope that 2013 is a banner year for you and your family sir - all the best to you all.

Dwayne
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#7242803 - 12/30/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: BC30cal]
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Kute,I shoulda been more precise with the comment about British influences. CURRENT not Traditional. BIG difference. Currently the Brits have become a client state. Folks would rather be on the dole than working. I think taht is a fair illustration of attitudes in general.
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#7243290 - 12/30/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: EvilTwin]
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Well there is always the Mennonite assault rifle -- a 760 Remmy pump 30-06. laugh
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#7243309 - 12/30/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: the_shootist]
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Fellas, the Brown Bess was the "assault weapon" of its day. Higher than average rate of fire (original definition of "firepower") mounted a bayonet and HORRORS, they were used for assaults!! EVIL STUFF THERE!!
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#7243451 - 12/30/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: EvilTwin]
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Originally Posted By: EvilTwin
Kute,I shoulda been more precise with the comment about British influences. CURRENT not Traditional. BIG difference. Currently the Brits have become a client state. Folks would rather be on the dole than working. I think taht is a fair illustration of attitudes in general.


Great Britain, certainly has their share of problems, much of which stem from their magnificent stand against the spread of totalitarianism, in two World Wars, alone, for almost all of "The Great War" to our victory and for much of WWII.

However, London and New York, still are the two top financial centers in the world, exchanging the first and second positions regularly and the enormous cultural influence, worldwide, of England, on literally billions of people(s) exceeds that of either Russia or even China.

The reputation of the British is respected everywhere, their military is THE pattern for almost every successful military on Earth and H.M. Queen Elizabeth II, is the one monarch, who can and does travel worldwide to be greeted with admiration and respect.....the "upper classes" in the eastern US fawn all over her.

When, Britain's little outpost in "The Falklands" was attacked by the macho Argies, the outpouring of volunteer support here in Canada and in the other Dominions, was enormous....we were ready to fight and win, as we always have, against the bloody invader and while the offers were refused, they were genuine...I know, I was among them.

So, old boy, many if not most Canadians and, certainly, those, like me, of the families who built this nation over the past almost 400 years, WANT the British influence here, now and forever.....God Save The Queen!!!

I would like to re-do our rather pathetic Constitution, however and here is where I feel the USA got it right and we should use yours, largely written by English liberals, as a "pattern".

The other aspect of this is many, me included, want British influence to stay strong to fight off the hated "monsewers" and "the multicult mob".

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#7247468 - 12/31/12 Re: Assault weapons for Canadians? [Re: kutenay]
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The "Assault Weapon" label changes for us every election. SOB's! I have two that would probably qualify, a Ruger 10-22 because it can accept high capacity mags, and my M1A Supermatch for the same reason. I bought both because they are fun to shoot. If I had to defend myself in my home, I surely wouldn't use either one. I would use a handgun on short notice. If I knew it was coming and had a moment, I'd stuff the Remington 1100 with #4 bird shot. 5 shots as fast as I can pull the trigger and minimal over penetration.

I had a guy try to steal an outboard motor off a boat on the deck. I pointed my .44 mag at him through the sliding door. After he ran off, I called the police. They told me I was lucky I didn't shoot the guy. I'd have been arrested for malicious intent. I looked into it and you really don't want anything around that says to a jury "I was just waiting to kill the guy who breaks in." Assault Weapon, Street Sweeper, Black Talon Bullets, Personal Defense loads, 000 Buckshot... Doesn't look good in the papers, and a jury probably won't appreciate it. Having someone break in and shooting them with your bird gun with bird shot sounds a whole lot better, and less malicious. Doesn't make the guy less dead, but helps your case.

A nice Remington or Beretta trap or skeet gun with a 26" barrel, improved cylinder choke, and a nice 1 1/4 oz heavy pheasant load is a very potent personal defense, and it implies nothing of malice or predisposition to harm someone. "I heard the window downstairs break and I grabbed my bird gun, stuffed in a few bird loads and went downstairs to investigate!" Sounds better than a police report saying the home owner used a Spas 12 street sweeper shotgun with 12 round extended magazine and Shredder anti personnel buckshot loads." Doesn't it!
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