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30mm tube isn't a plus. I'll have to see the glass for myself.
Agree about the weight... and then there's the ocular. The big ocular on Conquests is my biggest beef with them.
Happy New Year, sir!
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Retailers can hardly give away a Conquest at $499. Interesting to see what this $799 price will do for the product. Zeiss has been awful sneaky in the last few years,they keep adding a letter or two or HD to a product that they already had and raise the price several hundred dollars. Now Zeiss Conquest HD binos cost darn near what Victory's cost 3-4 years ago. Its a tough pill to swallow when you know its still just a Conquest. Not saying the Conquest isn't good quality,they are but if your gonna spend $800-$1000 for a scope or binos theres other models or makes to consider.
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30mm tube isn't a plus. I'll have to see the glass for myself.
Agree about the weight... and then there's the ocular. The big ocular on Conquests is my biggest beef with them.
Happy New Year, sir! Happy New Year as well
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30mm tube isn't a plus. I'll have to see the glass for myself.
Agree about the weight... and then there's the ocular. The big ocular on Conquests is my biggest beef with them.
Happy New Year, sir! If you twist turrets the VX6 30mm tube is a huge advantage.....20MOA per turn. The glass in the VX6 is noticeably better too.
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In a regular ol' 600-yard hunting rifle I don't need 20 MOA.
Not dissing the VX6.. just not drinking the koolaid (nor am I dismissing either scope) until I get peepers on 'em.
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Is this scope supposed to be a replacement for the Conquest line or something?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Is this scope supposed to be a replacement for the Conquest line or something? Bob, I think it is the "silk purse effect" that Zeiss is banking on . More like the Swaro AV to Z3 transformation.
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Oldelkhunter: Got it...thanks. 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Is this scope supposed to be a replacement for the Conquest line or something? Or replace the Duralyt ?
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so even though no one has tested the conquest HD scopes, we've determined they are no better than the regular conquest scopes and nowhere close to the VX-6 (which doesnt tout HD Lenses)
interesting
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I don't know who you're referring to, but I am specifically referring to the regular Conquest/VX6. Since nobody's seen the HD in person, common sense would tell you there's no personal comparisons.
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Is this scope supposed to be a replacement for the Conquest line or something? Bob, I think it is the "silk purse effect" that Zeiss is banking on . More like the Swaro AV to Z3 transformation. 5x erector and HD lenses are more than renaming an AV to a Z3 why are we talking about old conquests in a conquest HD thread? .
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Since nobody's seen the HD in person, common sense would tell you there's no personal comparisons. I've seen them, held them, and looked through them? Looking for a rifle to mount the 2-10x42 on now....
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So how does it compare to the regular Conquest?
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....and do they have the Lotu-Tec coatings ?
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....and do they have the Lotu-Tec coatings ? Leupold has their heads way up the wazoooo leaving this absent from the VX3/VX6.
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....and do they have the Lotu-Tec coatings ? Leupold has their heads way up the wazoooo leaving this absent from the VX3/VX6. You said a mouthful..
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That'll be on diamond coat 3 on the vari-x VI
They are going back to the Roman numerals and "vari"
:-)
Just havin fun
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Looks like there are 3 models. A 2-10x42, 3-15x42 and 5-25x50. Zeiss Plex and Rapid-Z reticles and Ballistic Turrets available too. They are 1 inch tubes.
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Since nobody's seen the HD in person, common sense would tell you there's no personal comparisons. I've seen them, held them, and looked through them? Looking for a rifle to mount the 2-10x42 on now.... Hey, I've got a rifle you can mount it on! What's the eye relief like?
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