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Just heard about this. Anybody have any information? There is nothing on the Zeiss web site.
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My local dealer got them in a few days ago. Nice looking sight. The 2-12x42 was $799. I didn't price the 3-15x42 and didn't ask about the 50mm model. Nice looking scope but the eye piece seemed larger in diameter than I'd like. The boxes were marked "Assembled in Germany".
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No wonder everyone was clearing out all their Conquests
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Retailers can hardly give away a Conquest at $499. Interesting to see what this $799 price will do for the product.
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JG, agreed the price point hurts a bit. Then again, so does a VX-6! I'd give equal consideration to either; I've had very good luck with Conquests.
Anyone know the eye relief spec for the 2-10x42? If it works like a 3-9x40 Conquest (unlikely, but...) in terms of ER and EB and all that gack, well, I'm buying one!
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Retailers can hardly give away a Conquest at $499. Interesting to see what this $799 price will do for the product. Exactly ..give me the VX6
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I am curious what a conquest 2-10 scope will do that a conquest 3-9 or 3.5-10 won't. I see no benefit to having 2x on the low end instead of 3 or 3.5. The 3-15x42 could be interesting if it has a side focus and depending on specs and price
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I am curious what a conquest 2-10 scope will do that a conquest 3-9 or 3.5-10 won't. I see no benefit to having 2x on the low end instead of 3 or 3.5. The 3-15x42 could be interesting if it has a side focus and depending on specs and price Marketing, the Conquest lineup is getting stale. To answer your question nothing. I have had/have the 3-9 and 3.5-10 and see no benefit of the 2.5 unless you factor in the HD lenses.
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I am curious what a conquest 2-10 scope will do that a conquest 3-9 or 3.5-10 won't. I see no benefit to having 2x on the low end instead of 3 or 3.5. The 3-15x42 could be interesting if it has a side focus and depending on specs and price Marketing, the Conquest lineup is getting stale. To answer your question nothing. I have had/have the 3-9 and 3.5-10 and see no benefit of the 2.5 unless you factor in the HD lenses. agree...gotta launch new stuff to get more sales....just like WSM's, SAUM's, etc
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Retailers can hardly give away a Conquest at $499. Interesting to see what this $799 price will do for the product. Exactly ..give me the VX6 Right on Oldelk.....any day of the week in my book.
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I'm surprised gr8fuldoug from Cameraland hasn't commented on this. If anyone should have the specs on these I'd think it would be him since they are a Zeiss dealer.
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I will have a complete post with specs, prices and opinion on January 2nd.
Zeiss has informed dealers about these scopes. They have asked the courtesy of a Worldwide January 2nd release date. Although there are some dealers that have not shown Zeiss that respect, we prefer to abide by their request.
These scopes are a nice addition to the Zeiss line of optics and worth the next two days of waiting for detail on them.
For now that is all we will comment out of respect for Zeiss' request
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Hopefully their accurate with their launch date. The intro of the HT stuff was, what......9 months ago and still nobody's seen one yet?
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Hopefully their accurate with their launch date. The intro of the HT stuff was, what......9 months ago and still nobody's seen one yet? This I will say... No worries there. We have already received a complete shipment and are ready to ship once these scopes are announced. They really are on top of things. For the record, we also have all HT product in stock
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Zeiss will have a booth at DSC and I'm positive they'll have the new Conquest HD5 and HT line on display. I'll be sure to drop by and take a peek.
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Doug, do they have target turrets and/or side focus?
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Thanks for the update Doug. I knew we could count on you.
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Retailers can hardly give away a Conquest at $499. Interesting to see what this $799 price will do for the product. Exactly ..give me the VX6 Right on Oldelk.....any day of the week in my book. I'm not nearly so dogmatic. I'd compare them and buy what I liked best. I've owned a lot of Leup's and certainly like the company. Ditto for Conquests. However...... gotta give the edge to Conquest for both mechanical reliability/predictability, and optics. I'll further split the RCH's here by saying I prefer Conquest-style constant eye relief to the Leupold retreating eye relief. But-- I'd certainly also love a VX6 (I think). From what you and other report they are pretty darn nice.
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Retailers can hardly give away a Conquest at $499. Interesting to see what this $799 price will do for the product. Exactly ..give me the VX6 Right on Oldelk.....any day of the week in my book. I'm not nearly so dogmatic. I'd compare them and buy what I liked best. I've owned a lot of Leup's and certainly like the company. Ditto for Conquests. However...... gotta give the edge to Conquest for both mechanical reliability/predictability, and optics. I'll further split the RCH's here by saying I prefer Conquest-style constant eye relief to the Leupold retreating eye relief. But-- I'd certainly also love a VX6 (I think). From what you and other report they are pretty darn nice. The Leupold will have better glass,30mm tube and weighs the same if not less. It is a no brainer especially at the price posted for the Conquest.
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30mm tube isn't a plus. I'll have to see the glass for myself.
Agree about the weight... and then there's the ocular. The big ocular on Conquests is my biggest beef with them.
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Retailers can hardly give away a Conquest at $499. Interesting to see what this $799 price will do for the product. Zeiss has been awful sneaky in the last few years,they keep adding a letter or two or HD to a product that they already had and raise the price several hundred dollars. Now Zeiss Conquest HD binos cost darn near what Victory's cost 3-4 years ago. Its a tough pill to swallow when you know its still just a Conquest. Not saying the Conquest isn't good quality,they are but if your gonna spend $800-$1000 for a scope or binos theres other models or makes to consider.
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30mm tube isn't a plus. I'll have to see the glass for myself.
Agree about the weight... and then there's the ocular. The big ocular on Conquests is my biggest beef with them.
Happy New Year, sir! Happy New Year as well
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30mm tube isn't a plus. I'll have to see the glass for myself.
Agree about the weight... and then there's the ocular. The big ocular on Conquests is my biggest beef with them.
Happy New Year, sir! If you twist turrets the VX6 30mm tube is a huge advantage.....20MOA per turn. The glass in the VX6 is noticeably better too.
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In a regular ol' 600-yard hunting rifle I don't need 20 MOA.
Not dissing the VX6.. just not drinking the koolaid (nor am I dismissing either scope) until I get peepers on 'em.
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Is this scope supposed to be a replacement for the Conquest line or something?
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Is this scope supposed to be a replacement for the Conquest line or something? Bob, I think it is the "silk purse effect" that Zeiss is banking on . More like the Swaro AV to Z3 transformation.
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Oldelkhunter: Got it...thanks. 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
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Is this scope supposed to be a replacement for the Conquest line or something? Or replace the Duralyt ?
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so even though no one has tested the conquest HD scopes, we've determined they are no better than the regular conquest scopes and nowhere close to the VX-6 (which doesnt tout HD Lenses)
interesting
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I don't know who you're referring to, but I am specifically referring to the regular Conquest/VX6. Since nobody's seen the HD in person, common sense would tell you there's no personal comparisons.
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Is this scope supposed to be a replacement for the Conquest line or something? Bob, I think it is the "silk purse effect" that Zeiss is banking on . More like the Swaro AV to Z3 transformation. 5x erector and HD lenses are more than renaming an AV to a Z3 why are we talking about old conquests in a conquest HD thread? .
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Since nobody's seen the HD in person, common sense would tell you there's no personal comparisons. I've seen them, held them, and looked through them? Looking for a rifle to mount the 2-10x42 on now....
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So how does it compare to the regular Conquest?
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....and do they have the Lotu-Tec coatings ?
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....and do they have the Lotu-Tec coatings ? Leupold has their heads way up the wazoooo leaving this absent from the VX3/VX6.
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....and do they have the Lotu-Tec coatings ? Leupold has their heads way up the wazoooo leaving this absent from the VX3/VX6. You said a mouthful..
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That'll be on diamond coat 3 on the vari-x VI
They are going back to the Roman numerals and "vari"
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Looks like there are 3 models. A 2-10x42, 3-15x42 and 5-25x50. Zeiss Plex and Rapid-Z reticles and Ballistic Turrets available too. They are 1 inch tubes.
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Since nobody's seen the HD in person, common sense would tell you there's no personal comparisons. I've seen them, held them, and looked through them? Looking for a rifle to mount the 2-10x42 on now.... Hey, I've got a rifle you can mount it on! What's the eye relief like?
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Gonna put it on the rifle you almost had? Lol scope be interesting to see but cant imagine buying one over the meopro. Asuming only thing really new is 5x zoom
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Looks like we get to do the Leupold v. Conquest wars all over again, except now it's VX6 v. HD. Lucky us!
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Anxious to hear from Doug today!
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Yep, one of these is on my short list. May even place an order today
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Anxious to hear from Doug today! Here is the official press release from zeiss on these new scopes. Carl Zeiss Introduces the New CONQUEST HD5 Riflescope Line with 5x Superzoom� Premium Performance and Maximum Versatility at an Exceptional Price Point NORTH CHESTERFIELD, VA., January 2, 2013 � Carl Zeiss Sports Optics, the world's leading manufacturer in high performance sports optics, is pleased to announce the new CONQUEST HD5 riflescope line. Designed for today�s demanding hunters, the CONQUEST HD5 features a superior 5x variable magnification range, new ballistic lockable turrets and redesigned RAPID-Z� ballistic reticles all built into the most compact SuperZoom� 1-inch riflescope in the industry. In addition, optical enhancements coupled with traditional features such as the Carl Zeiss� proprietary T* lens coating for unsurpassed light transmission and LotuTec� water-repellant hydrophobic lens coating will make this riflescope line an industry benchmark. Quite simply, the CONQUEST HD5 with its 5x SuperZoom� sets a new standard for features and performance in its price range. Designed, engineered and assembled in Germany, these compact 1-inch tube scopes with � MOA adjustments are available in three models - 2-10x42 3-15x42 5-25x50 and offer a variety of reticle options. The advanced design of the new CONQUEST HD5 includes rubberized magnification rings with finer adjustment than previous versions of CONQUEST rifle scopes, updated ergonomic turret design, generous mounting space and a lower profile for easy transport. Selected models also feature an �all new� lockable target turret for added speed and versatility in the field. �We are thrilled and proud to bring this high-performance CONQUEST HD5 riflescope series of riflescopes to market,� said Mike Jensen, President of Carl Zeiss Sports Optics. �Carl Zeiss is the leader in hunting optics and we are once again redefining the optics world with leading-edge products that will have a major impact on increasing our ever-growing market share. We are listening to what hunters want and delivering the very best to them at incredibly competitive price points. This new series of 1-inch hunting riflescope will be what all others are measured against�. Conquest HD5 2-10x42 : ![[Linked Image]](http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/zeiss_conquest_hd5_2-10x42.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/zeiss_conquest_hd5_2-10x42-2.jpg) This compact riflescope boasts an extremely wide field-of-view in 2-power making it extremely versatile in most close encounters from dense cover to mid-range hunting conditions in more open terrain. The Conquest HD5 2-10x42 is parallax free to 500 yards and is available with either a Z-Plex (#20) reticle or RAPID-Z� 600 or standard hunting turrets. Conquest HD5 2-10x42 Plex $799.99 Conquest HD5 2-10x42 RZ600 $874.99 Conquest HD5 3-15x42 : ![[Linked Image]](http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/zeiss_conquest_hd5_3-15x42.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/zeiss_conquest_hd5_3-15x42-2.jpg) The most versatile of the HD5 line, this riflescope has longer range capability, and is built for the mid to long range shooting distant. Extra compact and low profile, the 3-15x42 is the perfect solution for the mobile Western hunter in pursuit of elk, mule deer, antelope or even the hunter climbing mountains in search of sheep. Also, this compact length, low profile scope set at 3x magnification works perfectly for close range and fast acquisition hunting situations. This scope features side parallax adjustment, Z-Plex reticle in either hunting turret or lockable target turret. Also available in RAPID-Z� 600 or RAPID-Z� 800 reticle with hunting turret. Conquest HD5 3-15x42 Plex $899.99 Conquest HD5 3-15x42 RZ 600 $974.99 Conquest HD5 3-15x42 RZ 800 $974.99 Conquest HD5 3-15x42 Lock Plex $999.99 Conquest HD5 5-25x50 : ![[Linked Image]](http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/zeiss_conquest_hd5_5-25x50.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/zeiss_conquest_hd5_5-25x50-2.jpg) The most compact high-magnification riflescope in the industry and the most powerful in the HD5 line, this riflescope is perfect for mid to extra-long-range hunting. The wide magnification range provides great flexibility for those shooting in vast Western terrains with magnum calibers or for general varmint and predator control. This scope also features a side parallax adjustment and is available with a Z-Plex reticle with lockable target turret, RAPID-Z� 800 with hunting turret, Rapid-Z� 1000 with lockable target turret or with a RAPID-Z� Varmint reticle and hunting turret. Conquest HD5 5-25x50 RZ 800 $1,074.99 Conquest HD5 5-25x50 Lock Plex $999.99 Conquest HD5 5-25x50 Lock RZ 1000 $1,074.99 Conquest HD5 5-25x50 Lock RZ Varmint $1,074.99 All of these scopes are in stock ready to ship. I opened them up and checked them out and the optics seem to be an improvement over the existing Conquest line of scopes. Nice fit and finish. I would agree that these are an updated, upgraded Conquest. Please feel free to call me or Neil with any questions.
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lotutec, FL glass, 1".....i have a feeling these will be popular and cheaper than the msrp! if you know where to buy them hint
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is it enough to make someone not buy the Z3 instead ?
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is it enough to make someone not buy the Z3 instead ? For me it depends on the weight. I'm building a Ti gun right now.
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Why is it so hard to find a picture of one of these in 2-10x42?
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It is listed on the Zeiss site now, but no specifications for weight and length
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Heres pics and specs http://www.eurooptic.com/zeiss-scopes-conquest-hd5.aspxAppears they have shortened the eye relief and if the specs are correct the 3-15 weighs less than the 2-10
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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neat looking scope! I'd like to play with one of them!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
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Why does the 2-10 weigh 2oz more than the 3-15?
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Looks like my next scope will be Swarovski 2.5-10-42 Z3 or AV.
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I also noticed a change in the standard plex reticle, it appears to be thinner throughout than the standard Conquest z-plex reticle
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Looks like a sweet package to me. I'm very curious as to the duplex reticle myself AlaskaCub. The cuplex reticle on my Conquest is somewhat similar to the leupold wide duplex, with thinner wires than the thin wires on the Leupy. If pics are accurate, it's more like the current VX3 duplex, which IMO would be a good thing. I'm headed to DSC this weekend and hopefully will get a peek at one. Ballistic turret looks interesting too. Wondering about zero stop? How much MOA per turn adjustment? We'll see I guess.
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Ok I don't see the "sleekness" and it now has 3 1/2 inches of eye relief . Quite Frankly what does this thing do that a 2.5-10x40 Bushnell Elite not do?
I mean it has better reticle choices for one thing.
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Thanks for the link, AC! By the way, Alex at Europtics is a great guy to deal with! A real class act. John
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Good point on eye relief Oldelk.....guess they're more concerned with increasing FOV.
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Yeah it definitely looks like a nice scope, price increase definitely makes a guy weigh the value vs some other really good scopes but maybe its worth it. I realy like the darker z-plex reticles on the standard conquest for low light shooting so I am not sure on the thickness of the bars on this new Conquest. Shorter eye relief has me concerned too unless it has an awesome eyebox that offsets it. A 3-15 with standard plex and target turrets seems real appealing though, but $1000 makes you really have to consider a Swaro Z3 too. If it was in the $600 range it would make the decision making a little easier. Im sure guys here will give em a run and let us know.
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Thanks for the link, AC!
By the way, Alex at Europtics is a great guy to deal with! A real class act.
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Yeah it definitely looks like a nice scope, price increase definitely makes a guy weigh the value vs some other really good scopes but maybe its worth it. I realy like the darker z-plex reticles on the standard conquest for low light shooting so I am not sure on the thickness of the bars on this new Conquest. Shorter eye relief has me concerned too unless it has an awesome eyebox that offsets it. A 3-15 with standard plex and target turrets seems real appealing though, but $900 makes you really have to consider a Swaro Z3 too. If it was in the $600 range it would make the decision making a little easier. Im sure guys here will give em a run and let us know. More then the eye relief is the issue with weight and its "new Price". I haven't looked at one in person but for the price,eye relief and weight I will look at a Z3,Leupold VX-6 and if my finances fall off the cliff a BL 2-10x40
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Agreed on all counts. It also throws the very nice VX6 in the mix at that price point. The 2-12x42 can be had at the $799 price pretty easily.
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Like JGRaider mentioned earlier, if they find that they don't sell like the Conquest didn't for MSRP, they'll probably bring the price down a bit with these everlasting sales we have seen for years on the standard Conquest and then they'll move like hot cakes, much like the Conquest 3-9 has.
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Thanks for the link, AC!
By the way, Alex at Europtics is a great guy to deal with! A real class act.
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Never ordered anything from Europtics, Doug has always been my guy!....grin It is good to have choices! Also, unless things have changed, Doug's company Cameralandny.com will not export (which I have to pay attention to even if few others here do) Europtics will export. Anyway, the more scopes (and vendors) we have to choose among, the better! More arguments on the optics forum, at the very least!  John
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Absolutely John, hadn't glanced at your local or thought about the complexity of exporting optics!
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Absolutely John, hadn't glanced at your local or thought about the complexity of exporting optics! I have been thinking of changing my avatar to the Swedish National Bikini Team just so more people (well, guys anyway!) will notice my location. Seriously, I know many here have posted their total satisfaction in dealing with Cameraland. That they are a sponsor here is a plus as well. John
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Ha.....just noticed that some retailers besides Doug have raised the price of the original Conquest 3-9's back to the $499 price instead of the $399 they have been selling them at for years.....hmmmmm
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I don't see the complaint on eye relief the regular conquest already had too much as it was. just use a pistol scope if you don't feel like you have enough. the 3-15 and 5-25 are not going to be the kind of scope you will likely want to use on a 375 H&H or other african caliber, when it comes to eye relief you want plenty to not smack your head beyond that your giving up optical performance. too often long eye relief is confused with forgiving eye box, they are 2 different things. the conquest I used to own had so much eye relief I just about had to use an extension front scope ring and or base.
if these scopes are on par with the 3-9 conquest optically and with the larger power range I think these scopes are a hit, I would have liked to seen a 30mm tube, zero stop turret, and 6:1 or greater zoom ratio
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That ocular housing does look large and without seeing it, can't say if it would interfere with operating a bolt action. I'd guess it would be close though. I understand why they do this and the benefits a larger housing offers, but if it makes operating a bolt more difficult, I'd have to pass. Sometimes I wonder if these new designs are actually ever tested on a rifle.
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90mm is just slightly over 3 1/2 inches. Plenty, unless you're a Campfire "hard charger" type.
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That ocular housing does look large and without seeing it, can't say if it would interfere with operating a bolt action. I'd guess it would be close though. I understand why they do this and the benefits a larger housing offers, but if it makes operating a bolt more difficult, I'd have to pass. Sometimes I wonder if these new designs are actually ever tested on a rifle. Without even putting one on a rifle I can tell you the next size ring height will have to be used on a 90 degree bolt rifle. It will work fine on Tikka,Sako,TC Bolts and Weatherby rifles. Yea they are tested with what is sold in Germany would be my best guess
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If you had older eyes with a severe prescription for nearsighted vision, your views of eye relief and large ocular eyepieces would not be nearly so smug.
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I just looked at the specs for the eye piece diameter of the new Zeiss Conquest HD compared to a Leupold VX-6 and the Zeiss is slightly smaller (2mm's). Guess it looks bigger cause of the 1 inch tube.
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If you had older eyes with a severe prescription for nearsighted vision, your views of eye relief and large ocular eyepieces would not be nearly so smug. Smug really? I do have older eyes and wear glasses. I see just fine thru Meopta,Zeiss and Swaro scopes that have "smaller" oculars. Swaros and Meoptas are right at 3 1/2 inch eye relief.
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I just looked at the specs for the eye piece diameter of the new Zeiss Conquest HD compared to a Leupold VX-6 and the Zeiss is slightly smaller (2mm's). Guess it looks bigger cause of the 1 inch tube. Yep
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I don't see the complaint on eye relief the regular conquest already had too much as it was. just use a pistol scope if you don't feel like you have enough. the 3-15 and 5-25 are not going to be the kind of scope you will likely want to use on a 375 H&H or other african caliber, when it comes to eye relief you want plenty to not smack your head beyond that your giving up optical performance. too often long eye relief is confused with forgiving eye box, they are 2 different things. the conquest I used to own had so much eye relief I just about had to use an extension front scope ring and or base.
if these scopes are on par with the 3-9 conquest optically and with the larger power range I think these scopes are a hit, I would have liked to seen a 30mm tube, zero stop turret, and 6:1 or greater zoom ratio Just my opinion, but those zoom ratio's are more than enough (5X and 6X) for anything I might use them for. Zeiss is using their best lense coatings, T* and Lotu-Tec, so I think the prices are right in line for their competition (Bushnell 6500, Leupold VX-6). The 3-5x42 also has a "lockable turret" option which was smart IMO.
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With my prescription I have to turn the focus ring out which shortens the useable eye relief. The eye relief has to protect my glasses not my eyebrow. I have tried 3.5" eye relief on several very good scopes (Swarovski, Kahles) and it is not comfortable.
The Zeiss Conquest series up to 3-9X40 were a godsend. As I don't need higher power or power ratios, I am happy that I have a lifetime supply of the current choices. If you find something you are happy with, buy several before they discontinue or change them.
The large oculars and etched reticles are a welcome bonus.
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With my prescription I have to turn the focus ring out which shortens the useable eye relief. The eye relief has to protect my glasses not my eyebrow. I have tried 3.5" eye relief on several very good scopes (Swarovski, Kahles) and it is not comfortable.
The Zeiss Conquest series up to 3-9X40 were a godsend. As I don't need higher power or power ratios, I am happy that I have a lifetime supply of the current choices. If you find something you are happy with, buy several before they discontinue or change them.
The large oculars and etched reticles are a welcome bonus. Yes but the eye relief on the Conquest 3-9x40 is 4" at the minimum
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Lockable turrets, does this mean they won't spin on your pack, any pics of these turrets, how do they lock??
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They seem really heavy - especially the 5-25x50. It is more than 1/2 lb heavier than Swarovski's 5-25x52 Z5.
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I also wear glasses. and adjusting the ocular out is only going to take away half inch at most. I have never come close to hitting my glasses with any of the scopes I have ran, which includes probably about 10 brands total.
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The ocular adjustment changes the optical properties as well as the physical. I have hit my glasses with a scope and can assure you that the rubber and spring-loaded ocular on the Swarovski PH series is there for a reason.
The point is that many of these posts extrapolate from the personal to the universal. This is not necessarily useful to some of us.
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Yeah it definitely looks like a nice scope, price increase definitely makes a guy weigh the value vs some other really good scopes but maybe its worth it. I realy like the darker z-plex reticles on the standard conquest for low light shooting so I am not sure on the thickness of the bars on this new Conquest. Shorter eye relief has me concerned too unless it has an awesome eyebox that offsets it. A 3-15 with standard plex and target turrets seems real appealing though, but $900 makes you really have to consider a Swaro Z3 too. If it was in the $600 range it would make the decision making a little easier. Im sure guys here will give em a run and let us know. More then the eye relief is the issue with weight and its "new Price". I haven't looked at one in person but for the price,eye relief and weight I will look at a Z3,Leupold VX-6 and if my finances fall off the cliff a BL 2-10x40 If your finances fall off a cliff, please try to avoid smooshing mine. They've been camped at the bottom of that cliff for a while now. Guys keep mentioning shorter eye relief. Shorter than what? The 2-10x42 has 90 mm which is over 3.5". Most of the Conquests are 3.5". The 3-9x40 being a notable exception.
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Why would the 2-10 weigh more than the 3-15? (2-10 17.5oz vs. 3-15 15.2oz)
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Why would the 2-10 weigh more than the 3-15? (2-10 17.5oz vs. 3-15 15.2oz) On Zeiss' website the 3-15 is listed as 18.4 oz
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The 3-15 is interesting.
I really need to get eyeballs on one of these here newfangled x5 or x6 zoom scopes. In a little skeptical that bottom end is still nice. For myself, I can work with about anything on the top end; I have my preferences but full magnification implies a longer shot which means there's some time to accommodate the scope's needs by adjusting my position, etc. Not so with the bottom end; that's "throw your rifle up and slap the trigger" time, there. So, on that 3-15x42 I'm actually much more concerned with the 3x optical properties.
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When you're in Grants Pass give me a call and we can hook up. You can take as long as you would like to look at the 5X and 6 1/2X scope I have. Both are perfectly clear throughout their ranges.
A surprise is the 5X appears to have a larger field of view than the 4 1/2X.
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It will be nice to hear the real world actual field reviews.
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Why would the 2-10 weigh more than the 3-15? (2-10 17.5oz vs. 3-15 15.2oz) On Zeiss' website the 3-15 is listed as 18.4 oz Heavier than I would prefer, but it wouldn't cause me not to buy one. I look at the whole package.
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I looked at these today at the DSC convention and they seem to be a step up from the conquest we are all familiar with.
The glass is very nice in the 10x, 15x and 25x.
Eye relief is very adequate and did not feel short.
I was hand-holding these in a convention hall so take it as you will.
I liked the view through the 25x the best. It popped nicely.
Was not overly impressed with the 3-15x42 but I do like a 50mm obj and am stout enough to tote a couple extra ounces.
The exposed turret on the 25x was tactile and precise. Well executed. I would assume the same on the 15x equally equipped but there was not one there with turret to look at.
The ocular assembly is large, at least as large as the conquest.
They had a 1.5-6x42 HT on display and all I can say is OMG!! That scope had some fantastic glass, huge "eyebox" and was very impressive overall. Had I the need for a scope of that power range I'd be showing ya'll pictures all up in here. Makes me want to buy a 375HH just to have a platform for that beotch.
With all that said, I am trying to resist the 5-25x50 for my pdog rig. It is veddy nice.
Watch out Swaro Z3 and Z5. There's some competion in the house.
PS....they are discontinuing quite a few Conquest models and retaining only 6 or so of the current models. Watch for closeout pricing on the discontinued models if you are in the market. The models they are keeping have been reduced in price as well.
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That 1.5-6x42 would be pretty cool on my blacktail .358 I bet. Currently it has a 1.8-5.5x38 Conquest.
They've been discontinuing Conquests for a while now. The 4x, 2.5-8, 1.8-5.5.... all gone already.
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I realize that but this is more of a mass exodus.
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What didn't you like about the 3-15 x42 ?
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Watch out Swaro Z3 and Z5. There's some competion in the house. They are too heavy to be competition for the z3 and z5.
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The infatuation of flyweight scopes makes no sense to me.
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The infatuation of flyweight scopes makes no sense to me.
Eat a Wheatie. Its not just flyweight scopes, its lightweight rifles that they don't want to put big heavy scopes on. Gotta remember Hutch, a lot of guys hunt very differently than Texans do. If your hiking miles up and down hills or mountains the idea of a lightweight package in your hands is quite appealing. If your sitting in a box blind it doesn't matter if it weighs 30 lbs all up.
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I understand all that but it gets a little silly when 2 or 3 ounces makes or breaks it.
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I understand all that but it gets a little silly when 2 or 3 ounces makes or breaks it. Its all relative to what your goals are man. If I told you the things I used to do to lose an extra 5oz off the final weight of my loaded pack in preparation for a sheep hunt you'd think I was crazy! First year sheep hunting you start with a whole tooth brush and a little tube of tooth paste. The next year you cut 2/3 of your toothbrush handle off and squirt out most of your toothpaste, the next year you take no toothpaste and only an inch or so of toothbrush, the following year you scrap the teeth brushing experience completely. It can get downright silly but there are times when it all pays off.....or so you think!........grin
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The infatuation of flyweight scopes makes no sense to me.
Eat a Wheatie. The Zeiss 25X is a half pound heavier than the z5 25X. Does that make a difference?
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Do you really need a 25x scope on a mountain rifle Rich ?
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Great point^^^^^
Back on topic.....the 15x42 didnt seem as bright as the 25x, both set at 12x.
Subjective at best but that is what I saw. Same of the 44 compared to the 50 conquests. I always liked the 50 over the 44 in the 4-14 and 3.5-10.
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Do you really need a 25x scope on a mountain rifle Rich ? Only because my 30X is four ounces heavier.
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I understand all that but it gets a little silly when 2 or 3 ounces makes or breaks it. Its all relative to what your goals are man. If I told you the things I used to do to lose an extra 5oz off the final weight of my loaded pack in preparation for a sheep hunt you'd think I was crazy! First year sheep hunting you start with a whole tooth brush and a little tube of tooth paste. The next year you cut 2/3 of your toothbrush handle off and squirt out most of your toothpaste, the next year you take no toothpaste and only an inch or so of toothbrush, the following year you scrap the teeth brushing experience completely. It can get downright silly but there are times when it all pays off.....or so you think!........grin Sheep hunters are the minority of hunters by a long shot and they must all be on this forum. "Everybody" wants a LW scope. And, I hear what you are saying. I built a lightweight rig (7lbs and change)for the off chance I ever draw a Breaks tag.
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So while I was at DSC, I had to visit with Mr Alex Roy, as I do every year, and he made me a heck of a deal on a scope albeit not the new Zeiss, which he had.
That dude is top notch.
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Heck, a 3-9x40 Conquest is optically perfect for me on my WSM Montana. Perfect. But I don't like how it makes the rifle feel a bit top heavy my hands... Dolly Partin-izes the rifle as Dober used to say!
That same rifle feels nice with a 3-10x42 Swaro on it. Feels REALLY nice with a 2.5-8 Leup.
I like 3-9 Conquests on my long-action M700's; I bet the 2-10x42 would be fine too.
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You're killin me Jeff.
Finding it hard to believe when you throw that rifle up into your shoulder that you are having a hard time keeping the keel down? Please.
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The infatuation of flyweight scopes makes no sense to me.
Eat a Wheatie. The Zeiss 25X is a half pound heavier than the z5 25X. Does that make a difference? Might need a bowl of Wheaties then...with 2% milk.
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You're killin me Jeff.
Finding it hard to believe when you throw that rifle up into your shoulder that you are having a hard time keeping the keel down? Please. I didn't say anything about when I throw it up. I said it feels top-heavy in the hands. Ever carried a WSM Montana with a 3-9x40 Conquest?
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No.....how about a ti 700 06? 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Nope. My 7WSM is a custom gun with a Premier Hunter on it and we get along just fine.
Now I do have a M700 Ti 7-08 in a MR Edge with a Diavari 2.5-10x42 in Talley LWTs that is not top heavy. More apples to apples to your rifle.
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To each their own!
There's no way I'd put a heavy scope on my 7-08 MR.
One scope I'd like to mess with on my light guns is the (Bob! you hold your tongue now!) Swarovski Z3 3-9x36. I looked through one the other day and it was pretty spectacular. Better than my 3-10x42 AV, I thought.
I wish Zeiss would put the optics and mechanical reliability of the 3-9x40 Conquest into an 11-oz scope. Not possible, I'm sure, but I can dream!
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To each their own!
There's no way I'd put a heavy scope on my 7-08 MR.
I didnt. Scope only weighs 15.sumptin ounces. I usually take a crap before I hit the woods and that is prolly good for a 2 pound loss, dependant on last night's dinner. Well offsets the ounce or two more my scope may weigh over an inferior offering. So I'm good.
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You're killin me Jeff.
Finding it hard to believe when you throw that rifle up into your shoulder that you are having a hard time keeping the keel down? Please. I had a remington 700 KS in 280 and I had a 3-9x40 conquest on it . I purchased a new 2.5-xx36 VXII and put it on it in lieu of the conquest. There was a definite difference in handling.
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Back on topic.
I know someone else has seen these new scopes and has an opinion to share.
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You're killin me Jeff.
Finding it hard to believe when you throw that rifle up into your shoulder that you are having a hard time keeping the keel down? Please. I had a remington 700 KS in 280 and I had a 3-9x40 conquest on it . I purchased a new 2.5-xx36 VXII and put it on it in lieu of the conquest. There was a definite difference in handling. Hey Oldelk! So which scope was heavier/lighter and which felt as though it handled better? Thx, Bob
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You're killin me Jeff.
Finding it hard to believe when you throw that rifle up into your shoulder that you are having a hard time keeping the keel down? Please. I had a remington 700 KS in 280 and I had a 3-9x40 conquest on it . I purchased a new 2.5-xx36 VXII and put it on it in lieu of the conquest. There was a definite difference in handling. Hey Oldelk! So which scope was heavier/lighter and which felt as though it handled better? Thx, Bob Even though there might be a 2-3 ounce difference between a Conquest 3-9 and a Leupold VXIII 2.5-8 it felt like there was no scope on the rifle with the leupold mounted. I was using Leupold DD rings BTW
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So while I was at DSC, I had to visit with Mr Alex Roy, as I do every year, and he made me a heck of a deal on a scope albeit not the new Zeiss, which he had.
That dude is top notch. I couldn't agree more. He is top shelf and unlike lots of retailers he really knows optics and really understands what he is selling. BTW, did you get a chance to talk to the head Meopta optical engineer that was in that booth? That is one way sharp fella, and very helpful. That new 80+mm spotter is really nice.
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I did not. Had a 7 year old in tow whose "feet were on fire" LOL, and I had to bolt.
Was only in the building for a couple hours, just long enough to check out the optics and shoot Shockey the bird.
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I did not. Had a 7 year old in tow whose "feet were on fire" LOL, and I had to bolt.
Was only in the building for a couple hours, just long enough to check out the optics and shoot Shockey the bird. .......how come (just curious)?
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If I had it would have been out of pure jealousy of the stuff he gets to hunt and places he gets to hunt.
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So guys, does anything think these new conquest HDs will be better than the duralyt? There is currently a 2-8x42 duralyt atop my go-to 30-06. Id be interested in the 2-10 hd though if they were better. The thought of T* and lotutec has me thinking. Thoughts? I dont even know what coatings are on th duralyt?
It seems that these new HDs will eventually take the spot of the duralyt if they are as good as the hype around them.
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I like Conquests, and own two of them.
My own eyes would have to actually tell me from looking through them, if the HD is worth twice the price.
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the 3-15 and 5-25 are not going to be the kind of scope you will likely want to use on a 375 H&H or other african caliber, Maybe not, but I bet they will be considered for something like a .300 RUM or Weatherby or on of the big cased .338s...
This is a shooting forum, there is no place here for logic.
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the 3-15 and 5-25 are not going to be the kind of scope you will likely want to use on a 375 H&H or other african caliber You say correctly. But I am not the likely person you run into. My .375-.416 Rem has a Bushnell 4200 4-16X40. If I had more discretionary income it would have a z5 3 1/2-18X.
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The 5-25 is a VERY nice scope. I fondled one at the safariclub show. The turrets are nice and the optics were great
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No wonder everyone was clearing out all their Conquests I scored 2 and I am happy
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My Zeiss HD5 Conquest 2-10x42 came today. I weighed it and it came in at 16.4 ounces not 17.5 ounces listed on all the web sites.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The 2-10x42 has standard hunting turrets. The 3-15x42 has the target turrets. I purchased mine form Redhawkrifles you can go on there website and check them out. Tom
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savage thanks got them located.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Any reviews on this new scope? I have to buy a new scope for my new build in 300 WSM.
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Sorry . . . not much of a review, but some general info.
I bought a 2-10x42 and played with it quite a bit. It is a beautiful piece of glass in my estimation. I liked it so much that I bought a 3-15x42 with turrets for another rifle.
If you use the search function, you should find another post on the Zeiss HD5, and another post about the new Terra (that has some HD5 details from a Zeiss employee).
Basically, the Terra is optically better than the old Conquest, but with fewer SKUs. The HD5 is a significant step up from the Terra.
I bought 3 of the old Conquest 3-9x40 MC when Cabelas had them on closeout for around $300 apiece. But when I saw the HD5, I sold the Conquest MCs in short order and bought an HD5. To my eye, the HD5 is dramatically better.
One Campfire member posted that he has both an HD5 and a Swarovski Z6. He stated that he thought the Swaro was just slightly superior, but for half the price the next scope he buys would be another HD5.
Good luck with your decision.
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Has anyone butler creeked their HD5 2-10x42, and if so, sizes?
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Bumping this back up. Would I be crazy to put one of these on a .404 or .375 or better to stick with a leupold 2.5-8?
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It was fun reading this old thread. I have the HD 2-10x42 and the Leupy 2.5-8x36. But don't have African hunting experience.
On the lower power settings, the Leupy gives longer eye relief but seems shorter than the HD's as you turn the power up, but is a handier package being smaller, lighter, and shorter. The Leupy is OK for evening hunting down to the legal half hour after sunset in most American states.
The HD has better glass and would enable hunting a bit later in the evening. It would be better hunting in mists, fog, or rain with it's lens coatings. You didn't mention if your rifle was a Mauser action, I've noticed when you pull the bolt back on some Mausers the bolt can have a lot of loose play or rotation and may require taller mounts to clear the eyepiece on the HD.
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My 3-15x50 with the Z800 has provided excellent service for a few rough country elk hunts on a 300 Weatherby that generates more than a little recoil and has been dragged through several miles of oak brush, sage, snow, rain etc. without a hiccup.
To my eyes the glass is nicer than the VX6 and it would be a good choice for any kind of hunting short of moonlight night hunting and even by moonlight it isn't terrible.
If you like Zeiss glass you will like the HD5 on your big gun. When I had a 375 H&H I put a Leupold 1.75-6x32 on it and regretted not going with a Conquest because it was not as fast and comfortable for me. It was a Remington Classic and I decided it wasn't going to be what I wanted for an Africa or Alaska gun and sold it.
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