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My 500 Jeffery weighs 11.25 lbs without scope (12 lbs with). It has two 12 oz mercury recoil reducers installed and the balance is perfect for me. If it was a pound and a half lighter it would be zero fun to shoot, for me at least.

My 500 Jeffery was 9 lbs without scope, not quite 10 lbs with scope. I do not own that rifle anymore...


My 505 Gibbs weighs 10 lbs even, I dont run a scope on it, the 600 gr Woodleighs at 2450 fps really boot, I have backed this round of reloads back down to a more civil 2250 fps. wink

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The difference between the recoil of a 458 Win Mag and a 500 Jeffery or even more so a 505 Gibbs of roughly the same weight and stock design really has to be experienced. I'm not a big guy, 5'9" 185 lbs, but I can shoot boxes of ammo through a 9 lb 458 Win Mag. One box (20 rounds) offhand through my 500 Jeffery and I'm still smiling but I'm done for the day.

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Yessir, I've still been grinning after being hit by a freight train or two as well. grin

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I've shot several different big-bore calibers (.40 and above) and none were too painful because they were in guns designed to make the recoil manageable (or at least not too painful). The only ones I have fired and refuse to again are the .375RUM and .378 Weatherby in sporter weight rifles- they just flat out hurt. It's not necessarily how many foot pounds are delivered - it's how their recieved...

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I absolutely agree, back in the mid 90's my 378 WBY developed a slight bulge at 12 o'clock between the top two cuts of the magna-port, I believe magna-port used to make the cuts a bit larger but stopped on the smaller contour WBY barrels.

Anyway, I had the Smith cut the barrel to 24" and recrown, already had the rifle steel bedded in a Pacific Research syn stock [IIRC they were later Rimrock stocks], without the magna-port and in that syn stock that 378 WBY was the rudest and loudest weapon I have ever touched off to date.

The 300 gr Partitions and a very large charge of IMR-4350 plain sucked from the bench. cry

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I have 9 378 Weatherby rifles of various vintages including a 20" carbine and will shoot any and all of them any time compared to those darn 12 ga pump shotguns using 3-1/2" loads. Way too light with crappy stocks. The only guns that have ever hurt me from a 577 Nitro down has been those evil pump guns.

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Originally Posted by gunner500


My 505 Gibbs weighs 10 lbs even, I dont run a scope on it, the 600 gr Woodleighs at 2450 fps really boot, I have backed this round of reloads back down to a more civil 2250 fps. wink

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You're an animal! When I first fired my .500 A-Sq with 600 grains at 2450 I thought the rifle had hurt me. It just was all over me. My right arm was numb for 30 minutes aftwerwards, and I was really fretting that I might not get the feeling back until it started tingling again. I wrote the editor of Rifle magazine to ask him about big loads since I'd seen some articles in the rag and thought he might know. He did; told me to pack the case with H-4831 and I'd be good. This was back in 1996. My rifle was 11.25 pounds. The memory still makes me dizzy.
I started loading shells with H-1000 and H-870 then began to bring the velocity back up with IMR-7828 and RL-22 in stages. It took me a year before I could pull the laynard at full velocity again. Yeesh.


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Dang Wbypoor, ya need a few more 378's LOL, mine so described wasnt the hardest kicking rifle, it was just a rude nasty ill-mannered bucking sombish, that syn stock may have made it close to a pound lighter, not to mention losing a bit over 2"s of barrel length.

TKK, I ran those 600 gr Woodleighs to max velocity to settle in the stock bedding with the cross-bolts, just wanted to make sure all would hold together well, it does shocked, the 600 gr PP soft points at 2250 fps will perform better at the lower speed, makes a much nicer rifle to fire as well. grin

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i'm a lightweight compared to some of you guys but i have a win 94 timber carbine in 450 marlin that is obnoxious off the bench. it weighs 6 lbs and has a ported 18" barrel. not so bad in the woods but off the bench it is obnoxious.


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Dang Wbypoor, ya need a few more 378's LOL,


I'm in total agreement with you brother. #10 is in the works and I've got one eye looking for #11...a Jap with exceptional wood. I'd like #12 to be a Mark V born in 1960, same as me. Then I'll be done. Maybe.



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I hit the dirt in '63, may have to look around and find a really nice LazerMark or ClassicMark II in 378 WBY again. wink

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Originally Posted by gunner500
I hit the dirt in '63, may have to look around and find a really nice LazerMark or ClassicMark II in 378 WBY again. wink

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Good luck with your hunt, those two critters are mighty shy.


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Most recoil I remember was 3 rounds of 500 Jeffery when I was about 15 years old. Man did my brain get rattled.


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The .458 Lott kicked my butt in four rounds, and put a hairline split in my brand new Ruger RSM's stock tang while it was at it. My threshold might be .375 H&H for accurate, somewhat relaxed shooting.

Perhaps Ruger will fix or replace the stock and I'll give it another go.

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My 500 Jeffrey shooting 600 gr bullets. I still haven't worked up to a max load as the 2200 fps starting loads got my attention and then some off the bench.

I'd say once you get to pushing a 500gr or heavier bullet 2200 fps or faster, you're in a different ballpark of recoil compared to lesser rounds. Even though you can concentrate and not flinch, and with proper technique they won't hurt you, but it takes a tremendous amount of concentration to squeeze off each shot because the gun is going to come back hard.

I loaded 350's @ 2400 fps out of my 458 lott and it was downright reasonable, once I even fired off 2 boxes of ammo during a lunchtime range session. But the 500 gr loads, 10 shots in a session was often too much.


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How would shooting your very heavy aluminum ramrod out of your TC encore with 150grs of pellets compare with a some of these monsters yall are shooting?

I have been considering doing a big bore but may not after reading some of these posts

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I might sound like a Polyanna, but a plain old Remington Model 700 BDL in .338 Win Mag was the worst for me. Much worse than any of the .375's I've owned and also much worse than my Model 700 Classic in .416 Rem Mag. I guess it just didn't fit me well or something.

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Over the years I've had several 375s, several 416s, a 10lb 6 oz 450/400 and a 10lb 13oz 470.
But I found my limit with a 450 Ackley (essentially a Lott) that belonged to a PH in Zim. It was about 9-9.5 lbs and truly memorable.


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Boat paddle stock Ruger .338. The first one hurt so much I had to try it again. This is a two shot rifle but so far has only needed one. An amazing amount of pain, and I routinely shoot a .375 H&H and .416 Taylor, both under 9 pounds, taught me to ABSOLUTELY put the first round where no second round will be required.

I actually, finally, bought a new stock and that made it a four round rifle.

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